Tweak mainstream in Squeak

Bert Freudenberg bert at impara.de
Fri Jul 7 12:35:47 UTC 2006


Am 07.07.2006 um 12:01 schrieb Hilaire Fernandes:

> Hello Daniel,
>
> Daniel Vainsencher a écrit :
>> Hi Hilaire.
>> Its taken us quite a while, but one of the things I like to think  
>> we've learned as a community is that the right way to handle big  
>> changes is to start early, but have multiple stages. Andreas  
>> mentioned the idea of making Tweak into a package loadable into  
>> squeak-dev. This implies a whole lot of work, in fact in the past  
>> this stage has usually been something like half the work required  
>> for the integration of projects, so I wouldn't trivialize the  
>> proposal. It is good for the community because it allows people to  
>> try it out more easily. I think this is a better proposal than  
>> committing lots of people that have never seen Tweak into a  
>> "Squeak 3.10 is Tweak" plan.
>
> Sorry we can't buy it:
>
> -Getting Tweak in Squeak.org3.9 or
> -Getting Tweak in SqueakMap so it is loadable in Squeak.org3.9
>
> is as far as I can see 99.99% of the same process.

Actually, no. The first is a political decision (of huge impact), the  
second a technical issue (and not a small one either).

IMHO, your insistence on getting Tweak into 3.9 is a red herring -  
Tweak is bootstrappable in a regular 3.8 image. If you actually  
wanted to get a feel for what is involved in getting Tweak up and  
running you could try that.

- Bert -




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