On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:19:13 +0200, Hilaire Fernandes  
<hilaire at ext.cri74.org> wrote:

> (Still with the idea to get a core Squeak.org version, free software
> community compatible)
>
> A few days ago Bruno as announced some progress in SqueakGTK work. Last
> year there were this couple of release with wxSqueak, since then it
> seems to be quiet.
>
> Nevertheless, should we not give a chance to these projects and
> carefully examine how we could take one of them to be mainstream in
> Squeak.org.
>
> There are several benefices to integrate a third party widgetery:
>
> * We do no need to maintain it, only the binding
> * Squeak could be use to write more traditional GUI application
> * It will make us closer to the Squeak.org version, free software
> community compatible
>
> Next come the Morphic issue if it can be relisenced:
> 1. Morphic could be used to bootstrap the GIU Squeak.org version
> 2. GUI IDE tools could be developed with ToolBuilder
> 3. Next an unloadable version of Morphic could be arranged.
>
> Even if we can not relicense Morphic, we could get a reduced version of
> Squeak.org without it, and also the possibility to load it and embed it
> in the GUI (as it was demonstrated there
> http://www.swerlingphoto.com/squeak/wxmorphic/WxMorphic.html)
>
> In this vision of a Squeak.org, Morphic will be an extension canvas
> which can be load in Squeak.org at will.
>
> Many of us would like to keep and improve Morphic, many resources were
> developed for it. That way we could get the best of the two world.
>
> Bruno Luca, Rob Gayvert is it something that sound appealing to you?
>
> What do think other?
>
> Does it sound appealing or is just nuts ?
>
> Hilaire
>

wxSqueak is currently really more complete than SqueakGtk, therefore i  
vote +1 for wxSqueak.
Also i heard Rob Gayvert is making interesting changes, like wxGTK on  
linux and the unicode support.
I think SqueakGtk is not mature enough for this at the moment, eventough i  
would be really happy to have SqueakGtk as mainstream ;)

However Gtk is going to be an interesting toolkit more and more with  
latest releases, with a great support and a fast development. SqueakGtk  
wraps almost all Gtk classes, with basic Glib, GObject and Gdk support...  
it has been tested the first time by Goran Krampe on Windows, now i  
couldn't try it on Windows.

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