OT - Squeak and the Broader Software Community

nicolas cellier ncellier at ifrance.com
Fri Jul 7 23:33:47 UTC 2006


Hi Yoshiki

Le Vendredi 07 Juillet 2006 23:59, Yoshiki Ohshima a écrit :
>   Nicolas,
>
> > Apart lack of keyboard shortcuts (at least standard ones) that are
> > breaking productivity, one thing that would mostly afraid someone having
> > classical end user applications in mind is the halo handles... What are
> > these handles usefull for end users? Are they just there so the end user
> > can break the UI? I perfectly understand negative reactions.
>
>   Of course these handles are useful for end users who are doing
> eToys^^;
>
>   Other than that, there is a package called "Lockdown" by Ned.  This
> may not work with latest Squeak versions, but you'll see the idea.
>
> http://map.squeak.org/package/0c6d3bda-adbb-496a-ae84-8d4c145d14b5
>
> -- Yoshiki

+1
halos can be deactivated...

I already knew that, but what i mean is that halos are one of the first thing 
a decision maker will notice, and that's not in the favour of Squeak.
(one having something like a classical business end-user application in mind 
for example, not an EToys application).

And unfortunately, even if this point can be solved, this is not the only GUI 
problem.

The question is not "can squeak respond to these requirements or not?", 
obviously it cannot yet.
The question is rather "should Squeak target these applications or not?"
Knowing that some commercial Smalltalk address this problem better, this is 
more a strategic or political question.

Nicolas




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