OT - Squeak and the Broader Software Community

Daniel Poon mr.d.poon at gmail.com
Sun Jul 9 21:07:52 UTC 2006


I (and other people on the VSE list) would be interested in some of the 
technicalities of the port when you have the opportunity to comment.

In particular, I was would like to know if you have automated the 
translation of the #createViews, or whether you ported the window 
layouts and events manually. Ive speculated that it would not be that 
difficult to hack WindowBuilder to output different code to target 
another platform, like wxSqueak. Thats one project that I would sign up 
for.

Wouldn't it be a great start for wxSqueak if you could offer an upgrade 
path for all those VSE applications out there!

Cheers

Daniel

Rob Gayvert wrote:
> Unfortunately, rather slowly. Right now I'm just focused on getting to a 
> stable wxSqueak base.
> 
> .. Rob
> 
> Daniel Poon wrote:
>> Hi Rob
>>
>> Last time we talked, you told me that you were using wxSqueak as a 
>> target platform for a legacy VSE application. Are you able to say how 
>> that port is going?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Daniel Poon
>>
>> Rob Gayvert wrote:
>>
>>> Dan,
>>>
>>> My 0.4 release was reasonably solid for Win32, but the Mac version 
>>> wasn't as good (partly my fault, partly the state of wxMac 2.5), and 
>>> the Linux version wasn't really usable. I'm hoping that the 0.5 
>>> release (coming RSN) will work well on all three platforms.
>>>
>>> As for all of the other discussion about wx/gtk/Spoon, I liked Cees' 
>>> response the best: Why one UI? There are pros and cons to any UI 
>>> toolkit, so the more options there are for Squeak, the more 
>>> opportunities there will be to use it. My goal with wxSqueak has been 
>>> to  keep it compatible with the latest release of Squeak, with 
>>> minimal VM changes, and maybe eventually no VM changes at all. And 
>>> ultimately, it should work fine with Spoon. But I think it should 
>>> always be an add-on package to some Squeak/Spoon core.
>>>
>>> .. Rob
>>>
>>> Dan Shafer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cees.....
>>>>
>>>> I am going by what Rob said about it. He advised me not to rely on 
>>>> it  for a project just yet, but I think he's actively working on it 
>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>> Your news is encouraging. Perhaps Rob is being overly cautious.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 8, 2006, at 2:59 PM, Cees De Groot wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/8/06, Dan Shafer <dan at shafermedia.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That may be the ultimate
>>>>>> solution for a lot of what i want to do on the desktop, but for the
>>>>>> near term, that won't satisfy my clients and colleagues because the
>>>>>> wxSqueak stuff isn't yet ready to release.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why not? Did you test it? Find issues?
>>>>>
>>>>> I used it for a project last year, and whatever problems we had, they
>>>>> weren't wx-related...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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