Reinventing. Was: SummerTalk and Icalendar

Yann Monclair yann at monclair.info
Tue Jun 20 15:05:52 UTC 2006


That's fine by me. Part of the SummerTalk is, I believe, to have an  
opportunity to learn more about Smalltalk :) and the existing tools  
available.

Currently I'm working with VisualWorks. A port to Squeak could be  
possible, and fairly easy I think. It would be nice to maybe switch  
to the existing ical parser at that moment.
The idea of using Pier, or even MC2 is really interesting.

For now, I'm going to start with writing some tests, and I'll try and  
make my mind on a port to Squeak. This also depends on the people who  
would want such a tool (if they are squeak users or VW or another  
Smalltalk ).

I'll post about that later this week  I think, on my blog, and I'll  
let you know.

I just ordered two books on TDD, so I hope to write good tests and  
adopt that method of development. They are missed in my code so far :(

Yann



On Jun 20, 2006, at 4:27 PM, stéphane ducasse wrote:

> Hi philippe
>
> I think that this is good that we put pressure on Yann :)
> I already told him that.
> Now it would be good if indeed we could interactively publis,  
> change, ical.
> And indeed it would be nice if this would be using what you did  
> with david and may be based on pier.
> Yann could learn and build on top of what you did....
>
> Yann tell us.
>
> Stef
>
>
> On 20 juin 06, at 12:33, Philippe Marschall wrote:
>
>> I just asked what the goal is. If reinventing is the goal, I have no
>> problem with that.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> 2006/6/20, Gary Fisher <gafisher at sprynet.com>:
>>>
>>> >> Yann: "I was thinking of a nice webinterface, but google beat  
>>> me on that
>>> ;)"
>>>
>>> >> Philippe: "So what would be the goal of this project? . . .  
>>> reinvent the
>>> wheel?"
>>>
>>> It might be useful to note that the wheel has been reinvented  
>>> many, many
>>> times, in forms as varied as clock gears, grain mills and jet engine
>>> turbines.  While each varies in its expression and implementation  
>>> of the
>>> concept of "wheelness," none could be called the perfected form  
>>> of wheel
>>> which obviates all others -- to the contrary, each has in turn  
>>> led to
>>> innumerable reinventions of itself, most of which did not  
>>> eliminate but
>>> rather added to what had gone before.
>>>
>>> Google has done many things well, and some very well, but nothing  
>>> Google has
>>> accomplished can be said to have perfected the art to such an  
>>> extent no
>>> improvements or adaptations are possible.  The trick is to look  
>>> past Google,
>>> to pursue a vision not of what Google or any other innovator DID  
>>> but of what
>>> they might -- or ought to -- or could -- have ASPIRED to.
>>>
>>> We don't need stronger oxcart wheels, we need pneumatic tires.   
>>> Or perhaps
>>> maglev.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>
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