The grand update stream. (was: bugs on mantis)

stéphane ducasse ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Wed Mar 8 07:58:30 UTC 2006


Hi alan

you should not mixed Squeak and Sokoban or any goodies.
Have you contacted his author robert hirsfeld
May be is simply did not like your changes?

Stef

On 8 mars 06, at 03:57, Alan Grimes wrote:

> goran at krampe.se wrote:
>> Alan Grimes <alangrimes at starpower.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's what I do when I find a bug in squeak:
>>
>> [SNIP of blablabla]
>>
>> You forgot:
>>
>> 8. Bitch on squeak-dev instead of:
>> 	a) helping WebTeam to improve squeak.org
>> 	b) help fixing the in-image-bug-reporting-mechanism to point to  
>> suggest
>> mantis
>> 	c) ask how to help in any other way or (gasp) actually just do it
>
> Okay, I can play this game.
>
> I was about ready to concede when I remembered what happens when I do
> try to contribute.
>
> A fair number of moons ago, I tweaked the Sokoban Morph to within an
> inch of it's life and tried to publish it on Squeak's version control
> archive (I can't remember it's name...). While some might take issue
> with some of my stylistic decisions, the code did work and  
> demonstrated
> a clear improvment in the quality of gameplay. (Implementing my  
> changes
> from scratch would take about 20 hours of work..) I submitted this to
> whom I thought was the maintainer. He liked some of my changes but
> preferred a different visual style... I'm really not sure what  
> happened
> to that version... A few weeks later a version of Sokoban appeared in
> the mainline. It was based on the same suckey code that had  
> inspired me
> to fix it in the first place!
>
> That isn't to say that none of my changes are appreciated. I made
> several enhancements to B3DMatrix (If I remember the class name
> correctly...) that either simplified the call graph, removed redundant
> methods, or helped reign in excessive GCing... One person noticed  
> one of
> my changes and is probably enjoying it on his system right now. The  
> rest
> of you aren't.
>
> Contribute to Squeak? What's the point... Your enhancements and fixes
> vanish into the aether and never get used.
>
> Squeak is still a great system but all the cool things are happening
> behind closed doors at the croquetproject... Ofcourse when 1.0  
> comes out
> I'll have to back-port in all of the enhancements I've made to 0.3. =\
>
>
> -- 
> Don't let your schoolwork get in the way of your learning.
>
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>




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