about translations

jeroen at keizerrijk jeroen at keizerrijk.net
Thu Mar 16 06:51:13 UTC 2006


Takashi,

Thanks for your kind reply.

To recap:

I have installed the 3 patches in sequence in a plain Squeak3.8-6665.image.

After the first 2 patches i have a working editor, but very slow.
After applying yours the systems freeezes, does not respond, and
squeakdebug.log is not written.

I can only quit by Alt-F4. (Im on a windows 2000 prof system).


I have been thinking about the following too:

The comment from Hillaire about the context, makes very much sense to me:

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hilaire Fernandes" <hilaire at ext.cri74.org>:
>. Then the big bad point, is about the lost of context when dealing with
>translation. When using .po file to translate you are totally blind, you
>don't know the context of the message, then the translation may not be
>accurate (and well it is not accurate)

So i was wildly thinking:

Would it be possible to do something like:
Activating some kind of 'translation mode' (say by pressing a button in the
language editor). While in this mode, i would be able to select any string i
see and be able to call the translate function on that... (I dont know how -
from the menu or by placing mouse over and press special key?) That would
give me a translate fillInTheBlank. Like now in the editor, but called from
the spot where the actual string is, ie visible in its own context.I have no
idea if this is possible or how, but it seemed like a nice option to me.
That way i could just translate what comes to me first. Because as is
obvious translating all from the editor or .po is not done easilly /
quickly.

I appreciate all comments/suggestions etc

Thanks again!

    - Jeroen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Takashi Yamamiya" <tak at metatoys.org>
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.general
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: about translations


> Hi Jeroen,
>
> > When i apply Takashi's changes over that and i start the
LanguageEditor -
> > the system freezes.
>
> Thank you for the feedback. I have tested the patch on
> Squeak3.9a-7006.image with 01LanguageBackport.1.cs and
> 02LanguageBackport.1.cs. Could you tell me which version did you try?
> In any case, if you have a file named SqueakDebug.log in your
> directory, please send me as it is helpful for debugging.
>
> > I've looked through the changesets and compareed the code of the
different
> > images (smalland, squeakbase and squeakplugin-dev) and understand that
there
> > are two (or maybe more) differente branches of development ...
> > But i dont understand (yet) what and why exactly is different in these
> > solutions. If somebody could explain (a bit) it would be very helpfull
(at
> > least to me). If worth anything this helps me a lot to discover squak
better
> > and i've learned a great deal already by just trying to grasp all
changes
> > etc.
>
> SmallLand have been made from Squeak3.7 (correct me if it is
> wrong). Squeakplugin-dev is from Squeak3.8. The result is Squeakplugin
> will be merged into mainstream as Squeak3.8.1 and 3.9(?), but have not
> finished yet. I think maintaining small patches of translation is good
> idea meanwhile 3.8.1 is comming.
>
> > Maybe it would be a good idea to make some kind of repository of all
done
> > translations (if any) ?
>
> That's great idea!
>
> Cheers,
> - Takashi
>
>
>
>




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