Look/feel improvements (was Re: Smalltalk: Requiem or

Bill Schwab BSchwab at anest.ufl.edu
Fri May 12 16:36:11 UTC 2006

Hello all,

I do not for a moment belive that anything we do to the Squeak UI will
result in sudden stampede to consider Smalltalk a mainstream language. 
I also believe it really does not matter very much.

What _does_ matter is that the environment serve its users, and for
thosee users who are in fact developers, that it serve their (end)
users.  In that regard, there is much room for improvement.

If wxSqueak takes off, I will almost certainly use it, but I am just as
happy (sometimes much happier[*]) with emulated widgets.  A nice look is
useful, a configurable look more so; feel is critical.  Another aspect
of wxSqueak is an MVP framework; that would be wonderful to have.

3.9 continues a trend of improvement in the UI.  I will put in a
shameless plug for #0003590 on mantis.  Therein I have tried to fix up
an annoying tendency for keyboard focus to get snagged by lists, and
have reversed the active/inactive system window stripe colors.  IMHO,
the latter is a huge improvement.


[*] the native stuff tends not to scale well to thousands of widgets,
which seems to arise often in my work.

And multiple windows!  I like the idea of integrating wxSqueak into the

Ron Teitelbaum

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tim Rowledge
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:02 PM
> My current pet peeve on 'feel' is the abysmal feedback provided (or
> rather not provided) by buttons and lists. When you click a button or
> a list item something visible should happen *immediately* to show
> that the press/click has been picked up.

Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
PO Box 100254
Gainesville, FL 32610-0254

Email: bills at anest4.anest.ufl.edu
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