better or worse (was: YASoB)
smallsqueak at rogers.com
Fri May 19 14:33:37 UTC 2006
> > > When was Smalltalk really invented?
> > >
> > > Was it in 1972 or 1976 or 1980?
> > In 1972 we got the seed (objects and messages) and in 1976 the current
> > form (vm, classes as objects, inheritance).
> What does "invented" mean? And what is Smalltalk?
> In my opinion, the class library is as important as the vm and the
> language syntax, and the culture is as important as the class library.
> They have been developing continually. So, I do not think that
> Smalltalk has ever been created. We can say when key ideas were
> invented, but Smalltalk is much more than vm and classes as objects.
Oh, My Lord,
> I've been programming in Smalltalk since 1985. It (and I) have
> changed a lot since then. Smalltalk in 1985 had changed a fair bit
> since the original Smalltalk-80. For example, the pluggable MVC was
> part of Smalltalk-80 R 2, but not the original R1, and understanding
> pluggability was important for me. Pluggability has become an
> important part of the culture.
> Of course, Smalltalk hasn't changed as much as it should have, but
> that is a different story.
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