Minnow WIKI Migration

J J azreal1977 at hotmail.com
Mon Oct 23 03:59:31 UTC 2006


I would say go to Pier.  I think Kieth released some software that you can 
point at the swiki and it will slurp it all up.  Am I right Kieth?


>From: Matthew Fulmer <tapplek at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers 
>list<squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org, guzdial at cc.gatech.edu
>Subject: Re: Minnow WIKI Migration
>Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:54:20 -0700
>
>On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 01:04:12PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> > >The wiki status is one of the agenda items of tonight's board meeting:
> > >
> > >http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2006-October/
> > >109791.html
> >
> > Right. But since the Board cannot order people to do something, it
> > would need offers.
>
>I'll offer. I will need the help of the web team.
>
>How much interest is there in changing the Wiki engine? I have
>encountered 3 obstacles in the Swiki setup (or at least, how it
>works an the Minnow Swiki:
>- no user-name based logging. It is very hard to translate the
>   computer names stored in the change log into who did the
>   editing
>- no easy rollback. It is possible, but not very convenient, to
>   roll-back a page to a previous state. One must copy and paste
>   the old text into the edit box.
>- willy-nilly page locking. Many wiki engines only allow a
>   moderator to lock a page. In the Swiki, however, anyone can
>   lock a page and prevent rollback until an administrator comes
>   along.
>There are other, minor issues with the Swiki, but those are the
>big ones.
>
>A transition would most likely be a one or two phase process:
>1.  Get the wiki off of the Minnow servers at Georgia tech.
>     (what about the other Swikis they host? Croquet?)
>
>2.  If there is interest, translate the wiki database to another
>     format, most likely Magma + Pier.
>
>I am not too familiar with Comanche or Seaside, but I am sure
>they are easy enough to learn.
>
> > TSTTCPW is to move the actual installation to our server. That would
> > take someone to work with the box admin team to do it.
>
>Probably. Who are those people?
>
> > Maybe we could even pursue the GA Tech folks to repoint their minnow
> > DNS entry to us - there's an awful lot of links on the web to minnow.
>
>Mark: do you think this would be possible?
>
> > I can see several other ways to continue, but none without severe
> > drawbacks. All would require significantly more work, so there would
> > have to be volunteers to do it.
>
>Well, I am volunteering. What are your other ideas?
>
>Mark: please reply to squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org if
>possible
>
>--
>Matthew Fulmer
>

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