2006/10/23, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>:
> Has Pier solved the persistency issue? Holding all data in image is
> *not* acceptable for real deployment. That is why Michael pointed out
> impara's Smallwiki version that puts everything into an external file
> tree.

How much data are we talking about? Both unparsed and parsed.

Philippe

> Am 23.10.2006 um 05:59 schrieb J J:
>
> > I would say go to Pier.  I think Kieth released some software that
> > you can point at the swiki and it will slurp it all up.  Am I right
> > Kieth?
> >
> >
> >> From: Matthew Fulmer <tapplek at gmail.com>
> >> Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list<squeak-
> >> dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> >> To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org, guzdial at cc.gatech.edu
> >> Subject: Re: Minnow WIKI Migration
> >> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:54:20 -0700
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 01:04:12PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> >> > >The wiki status is one of the agenda items of tonight's board
> >> meeting:
> >> > >
> >> > >http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2006-
> >> October/
> >> > >109791.html
> >> >
> >> > Right. But since the Board cannot order people to do something, it
> >> > would need offers.
> >>
> >> I'll offer. I will need the help of the web team.
> >>
> >> How much interest is there in changing the Wiki engine? I have
> >> encountered 3 obstacles in the Swiki setup (or at least, how it
> >> works an the Minnow Swiki:
> >> - no user-name based logging. It is very hard to translate the
> >>   computer names stored in the change log into who did the
> >>   editing
> >> - no easy rollback. It is possible, but not very convenient, to
> >>   roll-back a page to a previous state. One must copy and paste
> >>   the old text into the edit box.
> >> - willy-nilly page locking. Many wiki engines only allow a
> >>   moderator to lock a page. In the Swiki, however, anyone can
> >>   lock a page and prevent rollback until an administrator comes
> >>   along.
> >> There are other, minor issues with the Swiki, but those are the
> >> big ones.
> >>
> >> A transition would most likely be a one or two phase process:
> >> 1.  Get the wiki off of the Minnow servers at Georgia tech.
> >>     (what about the other Swikis they host? Croquet?)
> >>
> >> 2.  If there is interest, translate the wiki database to another
> >>     format, most likely Magma + Pier.
> >>
> >> I am not too familiar with Comanche or Seaside, but I am sure
> >> they are easy enough to learn.
> >>
> >> > TSTTCPW is to move the actual installation to our server. That
> >> would
> >> > take someone to work with the box admin team to do it.
> >>
> >> Probably. Who are those people?
> >>
> >> > Maybe we could even pursue the GA Tech folks to repoint their
> >> minnow
> >> > DNS entry to us - there's an awful lot of links on the web to
> >> minnow.
> >>
> >> Mark: do you think this would be possible?
> >>
> >> > I can see several other ways to continue, but none without severe
> >> > drawbacks. All would require significantly more work, so there
> >> would
> >> > have to be volunteers to do it.
> >>
> >> Well, I am volunteering. What are your other ideas?
> >>
> >> Mark: please reply to squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org if
> >> possible
> >>
> >> --
> >> Matthew Fulmer
> >>
> >
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