I guess I'd go with the croquet image for now.

- Bert -

On Apr 12, 2007, at 12:57 , Martin Wirblat wrote:

> Bert,
>
> thanks for responding. I think people don't worry so much about  
> Tweak vanishing but they feel unsure if they should bet on it for  
> "non-Croquet" 2d-only applications.
>
> Learning a new UI-framework and porting an app or making a new one  
> with it is a considerable investment. For many Squeakers this would  
> probably involve the decision to switch to Croquet from Squeak and  
> not try to ride two horses at the same time. But you wouldn't like  
> to find out later that today Tweak is only thought as a minimal 2d- 
> support for Croquet and not anymore as the successor of Morphic for  
> something like Squeak.
>
> I just learned about the new Croquet release as an alternative to  
> the image of the somewhat stale tweakproject.org site.
>
> So which of the following images should one use to start with?
>
> - iTweak-3.8-6665.zip from tweakproject.org or
> - CroquetSDK-1.0.18/deployment/Homebase.image
>   which can load the Tweak system from a MC repository.
>
> Regards,
> Martin
>
>
>
> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> I find developing UIs with Tweak pleasant - the largest I worked  
>> on was Etoys 2. Many things work much nicer than other UI  
>> frameworks I've used. For example, the coalescing of events is not  
>> something that I had problems with - but others find it confusing,  
>> and I wouldn't rule out completely that there are still bugs  
>> lurking in there.
>> That said, if something goes wrong it indeed is hard to follow  
>> what happened in the debugger. IMHO this is mainly due to not  
>> enough usage it gets - the Morphic tools are useful and mature  
>> only because they were used and improved in day-to-day work by its  
>> developers. Nobody spent much time on the Tweak tools yet. E.g.,  
>> the Sophie developers could not spend time on improving the tools  
>> because they were too busy developing Sophie (which also is much  
>> more complex UI-wise than your regular app).
>> I'd suggest you just try it for some project. Tweak is well and  
>> alive as the default 2D UI in Croquet so I wouldn't worry about it  
>> vanishing any time soon.
>> - Bert -
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