Very bad about Squeak in blogosfere
Todd Blanchard
tblanchard at mac.com
Sun Aug 12 00:41:48 UTC 2007
That's right. And all the other platforms are completely bug free.
Why I've never decompiled an entire java application server to work
around a fatal bug or anything. I mean, there would be no need. And
it would be illegal besides.
Oh - except I have.
FWIW, the internet's largest retailer survived the x-mas buying
season a couple years ago with a newish app server written in C++
that had an uptime during peak load of something less than 15 minutes
due to memory exhaustion. So there's one definition of "production
ready" for you.
-Todd Blanchard
On Aug 11, 2007, at 3:15 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote:
> From Anonymous on http://factor-language.blogspot.com/2007/08/
> smalltalk-is-dying.html:
>
> "Anyone who says Squeak is production ready has never used Squeak
> in production. Recently quite a prominent member of the Squeak
> community seriously considered moving to Java because he could not
> get uptimes bigger than a two days. It turned out Delays and
> Semaphores (!!!) were broken all time along. There are dozens of
> issues like this. One example is that the settings of the GC are
> tuned for memory sizes of about 1 MB. Don't even get me started
> about the 1 GB and 120 MB memory issues which tend to crash the
> image. Or the bugs in ClassBuilder, InterpreterSimulator,
> Decompiler, .... You need to have several Squeak images per CPU
> because there is a limit to the amount of punishment a single
> Squeak image can take. Squeak itself is heavily forked (Squeak,
> Croquet, Sophie, SqueakLand, SmallLand, ... ). All the code in the
> image in unmaintained. There are teams but most of the time they
> don't even integrate submitted fixes for bugs. Development of these
> packages has stopped. The same situation for the VM. The only VM
> that is maintened is the Mac VM. The Windows VM will only get new
> builds if the maintainer needs some fixes for himself. The Unix VM
> is unmainted. The maintainer of the main VM code publically stated
> he will do shit unless someone pays him. Squeak is fully of ugly
> shit code that has just been hacked in for abandoned experiments.
> That http server Seaside uses on Squeak? Unmaintained and has bugs
> with HTTP 1.1. That really is just a small list of issues Squeak has."
>
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>
> --
> Janko Mivšek
> AIDA/Web
> Smalltalk Web Application Server
> http://www.aidaweb.si
>
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