23 Aug 2007 17:39:48 -0400, Lex Spoon <lex at lexspoon.org>:
> "Ralph Johnson" <johnson at cs.uiuc.edu> writes:
>
> > On 17 Aug 2007 17:33:15 -0400, Lex Spoon <lex at lexspoon.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Anyway, I plan to add a link to the SqueakMap entry.  SqueakMap seems
> > > like a more appropriate place to add all the bits of meta-data you
> > > might ever want, including authorship and time stamps.
> >
> > Would it be possible to use the SqueakMap entry as a pointer to the
> > source?  Some package maintainers have stopped updating their SM entry
> > and just use PU.  This is a shame, since SM is the nearest thing we
> > have to a catalog of the entire Squeak universe.  But I can see that
> > people don't want to keep two systems in synch.  If PU could refer to
> > the SM entry then perhaps they could just update their SM entry and
> > get the PU entry updated for free.
>
> I would like there to be an easy way to post to both indexes in
> addition to others.  That's why I emailed the SqueakSource maintainer
> with code that posts a release to a package universe, in the same way
> SqueakSource used to do this to SqueakMap.

Exactly whom did you mail this code? Neither Adrian nor Lukas nor me
did receive any mails.

> I got no reply, and last I
> heard the SqueakMap button didn't work any longer.

It doesn't work because HTTPSocket is broken a bit more than it was before.

Cheers
Philippe

> Bummer.  The code
> is on the wiki, for people interested in setting up a "post update"
> code snippet for their own personal use.
>
> For your concrete suggestion, I do not see how it would help.  You
> still have to explicitly post to two services, only now instead of
> posting a simple URL to the package universe -- the same URL you'd
> paste to SqueakMap -- you'd post a SqueakMap version number.  Isn't it
> just as easy to paste the URL into both tools?
>
>
> Anyway, there is a better way to get SqueakMap holding more content:
> have it pull package versions from popular package universes.  At one
> swoop this would make SqueakMap hold strictly more content than
> package universes.  Plus, the presense of a package in particular
> package universes could cause the SqueakMap version to have tags
> added.
>
>
>
> > > > > 1. Packages should have information such as purpose and maintainer.
> > > > >    At the moment there seems to be no such information. Instead it is
> > > > > repeated for every version of the package.
> > >
> > > The maintainer and description can and do change asn time goes on, so
> > > it seems better to relist them for each version.
> >
> > But people tend to not bother copying the description, so it can be
> > hard to find.
>
> That should not be an issue in practice.  Can you point me to a
> package where this happened?
>
> Maybe the UI needs improving, but there is already a "new package
> version" button in the universe editor.  If you use it, the tool will
> automatically copy forward all the fields from the previous release of
> the package.
>
>
>
> > > Most of the time, anyway, you are only interested in the most recent
> > > version of a package.
> >
> > One thing that is annoying about PU is all the old versions.  I wish
> > maintainers would delete the old versions when they put in the new.
>
> Well, whenever you release 3.10, it will get cleaned out in the
> process of releasing the 3.10 stable universe.  :)
>
> I am not sure it is a worthwhile expendature of time for individual
> contributors to delete old versions.  They can do so, if they like,
> however.  The only potential problem is the one mentioned by the
> Viking, that users sometimes *want* to use an old version.  So if it
> is really a problem, I believe it would be more helpful to have a
> weekly cleaner script that removes all but the most recent two
> versions.
>
> Given Damien's new UI, though, it seems like less of an issue
> nowadays.
>
>
> Thanks for the comments everyone,
>
> Lex Spoon
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