methods for license conversion

Hi Pavel,

Thanks for your response.

What you are proposing is still a lot of work for
someone. If VPRI will foot the effort for their own
sake that would save a lot of self-funded hours.

Also I suspect that they have come to the conclusion
that after a certain amount of best efforts, it will
be easiest to dare a certain amount of transgession.
Then deal with the situations as they arise. If
someone asks us to stop using their code, we just stop
and write quickly the work around. Or find someone who
has already written it. That’s got to be easier than
creating swiss cheese and repairing ALL the holes in
anticipation.

Yours in curiosity, --Jerome Peace

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>methods for license conversion
>
>
>Pavel Krivanek squeak1 at continentalbrno.cz 
>Thu Jul 5 06:26:57 UTC 2007 replied:
>
>Hi Jerome
>
>On 7/5/07, Jerome Peace <peace_the_dreamer at
yahoo.com> wrote:
>> methods for license conversion
>>
>> Hi Pavel,
>>
>> I know you are putting in good effort and trying
hard
>> to do what is needed.
>>
>> We are a resource thin community and what you are
>> proposing to accomplish would require a lot of work
>> just to get to first base.
>>
>>
>>
http://comtalk.net/public/pub/KernelImage/20070704/info.txt
>> shows:
>> 960 unimplemented calls
>> no morphic
>>
>> DOA and useless as it stands, imho.
>
>In fact, it's about 340 unimplemented calls if you
try to remove the
>most common ones (class, blockCopy etc.)
>
>>
>>
>> I have tracked down and fixed some unimplemented
>> calls. Each one takes the resources of an evening
at
>> least. Where will we find the resources to fix 960
of
>> them?
>
>Most of them are very easy to remove.
>
>> Meanwhile squeakland is offering the squeak plugin
>> under the apache license.
>> What is stopping us from doing the same or at least
>> starting from there?
>>
>>
>> How did Squeakland and VPRI manage their license
>> change? Why can't we hop on their efforts?
>>
>> Have I missed something in this analysis?
>
>Good question. Only Squeak 1.1 is completely under
the apache license
>so I'm pretty sure that the license information that
they offer are
>simply not complete. Craig, right?
>
>>
>> Yours in curiosity and service, --Jerome Peace
>>
>>
>>
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>> >
>> >
>> >Pavel Krivanek squeak1 at continentalbrno.cz
>> >Wed Jul 4 19:40:15 UTC 2007 wrote
>> >
>> >
>> >Hi all,
>> >
>> >I have prepared an image with small code base that
is
>> ready for
>> >license conversion and is able to load a sequence
of
>> packages up to
>> >working Morphic system.
>> >
>> >Downloads:
>> http://comtalk.net/public/pub/KernelImage/20070704/
>> >
>> >- it contains 2919 methods
>> >- 1029 methods have no initials of the author
hasn't
>> subscribed the
>> >license conversion agreement so we have to rewrite
>> them
>>
>(http://comtalk.net/public/pub/KernelImage/20070704/authors.ods)
>> >- it is able to condense changes
>> >- it is able to evaluate unimplemented calls
>>
>(http://comtalk.net/public/pub/KernelImage/20070704/info.txt)
>> >- it is able to print all objects and generate the
>> image map in HTML
>> >form with reverse references
>>
>(http://comtalk.net/public/pub/KernelImage/20070704/ImageMap.zip)
>> >- it has still 2MB (that's why we need the image
>> analysis tool ;-)
>> >- it is able to load SUnit and run basic set of
>> tests without failures
>> >- platform specific code only for Linux
>> >
>> >I should point out that if I'm talking about
>> possibility of loading
>> >Morphic into this image, I'm not talking about
future
>> or theoretical
>> >plans but about real possibility supported by
>> successful experiments
>> >;-)
>> >
>> >I think that we should define exactly what the
term
>> 'rewrite a method'
>> >means and find some people that want to help with
>> license conversion
>> >of the image.
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >-- Pavel
>> ***
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