I am totally flabbergasted that Squeak understands the SAR format! I never
would've expected that in a million years! This fact is not documented
anywhere (except here).

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I'm only going by what I read on the Internet. People like Ramon Leon think
very highly of the PostgreSQL/GLORP combination. So I've installed
PostgreSQL. Now I need GLORP.

I suppose I could use Magma. I'm concerned about multiuser access and
database locking, though. How well does Magma scale?

(I'm trying to go Open Source/Free Software all the way. So that sort of
rules out Gemstone.)

Regards,
Richard

On 7/10/07, Matthew Fulmer <tapplek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 10:48:00AM -0400, Richard Eng wrote:
> >    I'm a Squeak newbie. I'm trying to get GLORP. But I'm encountering
> >    *endless* problems...
> >
> >    First, in Squeak 3.9, I try using SqueakMap Package Loader to install
> >    GLORP 0.3.138. I encounter the following error:
> >
> >        Error occurred during install:
> >        UndefinedObject>>methodsFor:stamp:
> >
> >    Then I try to get GLORP off the Internet. I find it at map.squeak.org.
> But
> >    the download is in SAR format!!!
>
> SAR is a format that Squeak understands directly. To open a file
> with squeak, either drag it from the OS into Squeak, or use the
> file list (World Menu -> open... -> file list). Either way will
> give you the option to open, unzip, or install the SAR package.
>
> I tried doing this, and got the same error as you encountered
> above. I noted that SqueakMap says the package is only tested in
> 3.8, so I tried installing it in Squeak 3.8. I got
> Squeak3.8.1-7067, upgraded SqueakMap, then tried installing
> GLORP port, and got the same error as before.
>
> Next, I tried reading the package description, and it said that
> it requires the Ansi compatibility package and the Posgres
> package. So, Back to 3.9 I went and tried loading those two
> packages. I loaded those two packages from SqueakMap, then
> retried installing GLORP port from SqueakMap. This time it
> got further, but it failed at Dialect>>determineDialect. I
> modified Dialect>>basicIsSqueak to return true, and tried the
> install again. It still failed.
>
> On the other hand, what are you trying to do? You seem to want a
> database. There are several databases Squeak supports. The
> most well supported is the image itself. Next is the Magma
> Object database. Also, Gemstone Smalltalk prides itself in
> having the best in-image database of any Smalltalk.
>
> Is GLORP really what you want? If so, I would recommend
> trying this on Squeak3.8-6665 (noted from the GLORP
> SqueakMap description):
> - Open SqueakMap, and let it update itself and load Monticello
> - Install Ansi Compatibility from SqueakMap
> - Install PosgreSQL client from SqueakMap. The GLORP description
>   in SqueakMap recommends version 0.9.2, which is not the latest.
> - Install GLORP port from SqueakMap
>
> --
> Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/
> Help improve Squeak Documentation: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/808
>
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