On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:42:15 +0200, Giovanni Corriga  
<giovanni at corriga.net> wrote:

> Il giorno ven, 13/07/2007 alle 10.40 +0200, Klaus D. Witzel ha scritto:
>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:54:37 +0200, Ralph Johnson wrote:
>>
>> > On 7/12/07, Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Who needs to do what to get it there? The code is there, with a small
>> >> set of fonts. And it is trivial to add anyone the user wants.
>> >>
>> >> Should Edgar and the release team just load them? Yes? Edgar, please
>> >> doit ASAP!
>> >
>> > No, Edgar should not.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> > The process is described at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5919
>> >
>> > To summarieze, first create a Mantis issue and put your code on it.
>> > Then get some people to use it and report that it works and is great.
>> > Then put the issue on the list of Mantis issues ready to be included
>> > in 3.10.  Then Edgar will try it out.  If it breaks any tests then
>> > he'll reject it and make you try again, so you really ought to make
>> > sure it doesn't break any tests.  If it doesn't break any tests and if
>> > nobody has complained about it then he'll add it to the release.
>> >
>> > The release team is trying not to be the arbiter of what goes in and
>> > what goes out, but rather to set quality standards and to manage the
>> > incoming issue stream.  We are not fixing up code or writing tests;
>> > that is your job, not ours.
>>
>> And this is also the reason that the 3.10 release team definitely is not
>> just two people. The contributors are also members of the release team.
>> They have other roles, but are fully integrated.
>>
>> Of course this contradicts the believe that the release team has not
>> enough people.
>
> I disagree here. At the moment there's a bottleneck,

There is perhaps a virtual bottleneck but not real one. Those who  
want/need to speed up Ralph's release process can a) change role and  
become contributor, c) change role and write tests, d) make tests green.

> since Edgar is the
> only one who can add stuff to the release.

Perhaps you have missed to notice that many other people added stuff to  
the release. If only the release team leader's criteria are met, that's  
sufficient for anybody to do so. Ralph asks for that, time and again.

BTW: Edgar is not alone, he's guided by experts like Bert & Ken (am too  
lazy to look up other guide's names, apologies to whomever I did not  
mention). Edgar's questions where answered, problems addressed, helping  
hands are around and are doing something for him to succeed. The 3.10  
release team is [perhaps not much visible but, nevertheless, ] big.

> Having more people on the
> release team could speed things up.

Change role.

> 	Giovanni
>
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/Klaus