Could you make a precise list of the possible improvements of  
ecompletion?

Stef

On 18 juil. 07, at 01:24, Simon Kirk wrote:

> Damien Cassou <damien.cassou <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>>
>> 2007/7/17, Ramon Leon <ramon.leon <at> allresnet.com>:
>>> Ditto, I love the auto parens. I much prefer to highlight and wrap
>>> expressions than manually opening, jumping to the end and closing.
>>> It's one of my favorite editor features.
>>
>> I feel less alone suddenly.
>>
>
> Damien, you're certainly not alone as far as I'm concerned.
>
> I love Squeak, absolutely love it. But, I still think that it could  
> learn
> from other IDEs.
>
> In particular, the autocompletion features in Eclipse for things like
> brackets, strings, comments and semicolons for Java are fantastic.  
> I think
> that eCompletion (if that's what does the bracket/string/comment/etc
> completion) has a few flaws that make its usability a bit frustrating.
>
> For example, auto-wrapping a string is fine, but if I then typing a  
> string
> character inside a comment (so, for instance, writing a string that
> contains the substring "I'm") it will automatically add another  
> apostrophe,
> as if I were writing a string in-code.
>
> There are a number of foibles like that that ought to be relatively  
> simple
> to fix for eCompletion, and would improve the experience  
> considerably (in
> my opinion anyway).
>
> I know for a fact that I am much faster at writing code using a  
> highlight-
> and-wrap approach to adding brackets, say, and I think people miss the
> point that one can use keys (ctrl-and arrow to move/select by word
> boundary, ctrl-and-home/end to select from the caret to the start/ 
> end of
> the line, etc) to control the selection highlighting, rather than  
> having to
> move to the mouse, where they may find they slow down.
>
> I've also experimented before (in Eclipse, as Squeak's undo/redo  
> behaviour
> is still pretty unpredictable) by undoing all my changes over a  
> large undo
> history, then redoing them (holding down the redo key) and watching  
> the way
> my code "grows" as I write it (it's quite fun to watch ;).
>
> Therefore I can comment that in my opinion I code in much the same  
> way that
> Todd described earlier in this thread - and that I find that  
> autocompletion
> and judicious keyboard skills actually aids and smooths this process,
> rather than hampers it.
>
> I also know I get incredibly frustrated when I use a co-worker's image
> where the autocompletion isn't there :) I also know that I don't  
> visibly
> see my co-workers code any faster or more elegantly when I watch  
> them code
> on their non-autocompleting images in front of me (even though
> autocompletion annoys them in much the way others have described  
> here), at
> least not because of the lack of autocompletion.
>
> Finally, the other autocompletion of using ctrl-space with  
> eCompletion I
> find far superior to the older alt-Q method. Apart from anything  
> else using
> alt-Q always seems to give me the wrong option (because Roeltyper  
> helps
> eCompletion know which option I really mean, I suppose).
>
> However, to follow up what Gary Chambers said elsewhere, we've  
> found that
> eCompletion can leave Controller instances hanging around that seem  
> to tie
> up memory and not get garbage collected. Not entirely sure why.
>
> My £1 worth (I ended up writing so much it wasn't just pennies :)
>
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