Multi-Million Smalltalk Users (was Re: [Etoys] Forward: Re: Pippy
and Calculate - Evolution Solution)
bert at freudenbergs.de
Mon Sep 10 20:49:46 UTC 2007
Indeed, if someone could add instructions how to peek behind the
scenes that would be awesome. Currently the trick involves Alt-Shift-
W to bring up the world menu, we should make that easier accessible.
Also (and I asked this before), we're looking for ideas and
volunteers who make Smalltalk programming accessible on the OLPC
environment. This involves a strategy to store your own code in an
etoys project (which works but is not really well-supported right now).
However, instead of packing another image+sources+changes, I'd rather
like to add sources to the regular etoys image. Preferably by
utilizing the Decompiler, with temp names stored in the compiled
methods, and possibly comments taken from an external file or
included in the method, too. Help with that is appreciated, too - the
Etoys team still has its hands full with the "kids stuff".
- Bert -
On Sep 10, 2007, at 20:41 , Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
> Hello, etoys list and squeak-dev list,
> This came up on the devel at laptop.org mailing list. Does anybody on
> this list want to show off what is hidden behind?
> Another idea we would like to try is to make a .xo file (an
> executable file for the XO machine) with an image configured for full
> development in Squeak. (And also another one with DrGeo II and
> BotsInc, etc. that could fill the gap between Etoys and Smalltalk.)
> -- Yoshiki
> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:45:39 -0400
> From: "C. Scott Ananian" <cscott at cscott.net>
> To: "Yoshiki Ohshima" <yoshiki at vpri.org>
> Subject: Re: Pippy and Calculate - Evolution Solution
> Cc: "=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ivan_Krsti=E6?="
> <krstic at solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu>,
> devel at lists.laptop.org
> On 9/9/07, Yoshiki Ohshima <yoshiki at vpri.org> wrote:
>> To reiterate my point, I think "the code behind" should be
>> presented in different ways that different learners can understand.
>> In Etoys, you can go from visual tile scripting to (say) textual
>> Smalltalk to the Smalltalk parse tree to the stream of virtual
>> instructions (these are all accessible to the user on XO, BTW).
> I'd love to see demo instructions for this on the wiki somewhere.
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