[squeak-dev] Re: What Constitutes a Complete and Final Release?

tim Rowledge tim at rowledge.org
Sat Apr 5 05:50:56 UTC 2008


On 4-Apr-08, at 9:18 PM, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
>
>> *You lot* get to do the actual work. Until and unless you provide  
>> funds to pay a team....
>
> How do you mean that, perhaps in the sense of "give money and  
> receive a guarantee that something will be done somehow"?

Unless someone works out a way to have a paid team to do all the work  
people want done then *you lot* - all the users of Squeak - have to  
communally do the work.

On 4-Apr-08, at 10:18 PM, Andreas Raab wrote:
>
> tim Rowledge wrote:
>> On 4-Apr-08, at 8:49 PM, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
>>>
>>> It seems to me that the board has a problem here, with both 3.9  
>>> and 3.10 :(
>> Well, no. It's not the board that has any sort of problem;
>
> Well, yes. It is the board's problem if it assumes the authority to  
> decide on the release team (which it has). Half-finished results of  
> a release team *are* the board's problem. It is not the boards task  
> to fix the ftp directory on the server; it's the boards task to fix  
> the process that led to selecting a team that doesn't get that job  
> done. If the board isn't capable of doing that, then it has a *big*  
> problem in my understanding.

Sadly, the board can't conscript people - not in this universe anyway.  
Unless we magically find that way to have a paid team  etc etc. then  
*you lot* have to step forward in sufficient numbers to do the work.  
The last two releases have been shouldered by a tiny number of people  
who got rewarded with complaints for their efforts.

If you want it done, volunteer to help. If you want to complain... go  
away.

tim
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