[squeak-dev] Embedding squeak (Was: What turns off newcomers)
siguctua at gmail.com
Tue Apr 8 01:38:09 UTC 2008
2008/4/8 Dale Weber <robotguy at hybotics.com>:
> On Monday 07 April 2008 16:36:29 Sean Heber wrote:
> > For what it's worth, as a long time lurker and essentially a non-user
> > myself with a background in "traditional" languages, these two
> > passages nearly completely nailed how I feel about Squeak and the
> > idea of using Squeak as it exists now. I couldn't have said it
> > better myself - and I've tried. :-)
> I've already been through a lot of this. What -seems- like it should be
> relatively easy is apparently very difficult, like creating an image from
> scratch or getting some one to help do it so I can learn. Nobody seems to
> want to take the time. I'm still interested in using Squeak for Robotics,
> but it isn't anywhere near usable for that yet - not enough access to low
> level hardware for embedded system use.
Squeak VM provided as standalone binary without any means to be
embedded in another project. The only embeddable solution for squeak
is a browser plugin. I never tried to build it, and honestly, its
looks like a hack to me, rather than generic way for embedding Squeak.
To make things working in your way, you need a deep knowledge of
Squeak VM which is very different to knowing/using smalltalk.
And there is not much people who can help you with VM, comparing to
language side problematics.
I think, that refactoring VM sources to build it as library, not
executable is good thing to do.
But i doubt that there anyone, who currently able to do it, will do it
for free :)
> I can handle complexity. It's the simple things that confound me.
> The Dynaplex Network - http://www.thedynaplex.org and
> Hybrid Robotics - http://www.hybotics.com
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
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