[squeak-dev] What turns off newcomers

Gary Chambers gazzaguru2 at btinternet.com
Tue Apr 8 21:49:39 UTC 2008


Perhaps a friendly "wizard" upon stating of the fresh image may be
appropriate. It could use Universes, perhaps, a meta-universe of high-level
choices ("have fun" "develop" etc.).

Gary
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[mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Stephen
Pair
  Sent: 08 April 2008 10:15 PM
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  Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] What turns off newcomers


  On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 8:02 PM, tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> wrote:

    I think there is a bit of a logical problem here ins that if the system
*didn't* have 'all that junk' the immediate result would be complaints that
'it doesn't have all that useful stuff like other systems'.


  I'd prefer this logical problem be solved by moving as much junk as is
practically possible out of the base image(s), but make it trivial to find
and load them back in.  Half that battle is in the finding.  Right now, I
can imagine that it's difficult for many people to tell the most useful
stuff that's out there.  Maybe the board or some other body could build a
consensus top 20 downloads (for a newbie developer audience at first), give
them prominence in the image, and make sure the load ok in the base
image(s), that would be a good start.  Eventually, maybe we could make it so
that certain things can be triggered to get loaded automatically (I can
imagine for example that turning on syntax highlighing could be made to load
Shout automatically).


  - Stephen
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