[squeak-dev] Re: SqNumberParser refactoring

Germán Arduino garduino at gmail.com
Sun Aug 31 23:22:51 UTC 2008


2008/8/31 Alejandro F. Reimondo <aleReimondo at smalltalking.net>:
> Hi,
>
>> The purpose of putting scripts on installer.pbwiki.com is so that those
>> scripts can be loaded into 'any' image with the minimum of Installer or
>> at best LPF loaded.
>
> The scripting idea is valuable when you want to "run" scripts (to
> produce output data) on a solid+fat+stable defined
> core of functions+components exposed by the scripting
> engine/compiler...
> It is not the case for smalltalk systems, where any change can
> be done on the system, during an installation the intent is to
> produce change in the system, and the most valuable attribute
> of the system itself is it´s stability.
> (a very diferent scenario to where use of scripting has
> proven to be good)
>
>> This scenario is intended to enable the user to see
>> and select what to apply to their own images.
>
> The real problem here is that "the user" (the owner of the
> system under my pov) must ask/respond without
> seen/understanding what will be injected and also without
> understanding some areas of the system that will be affected
> by the "script" (a script that is written by a person that do not
> know about the system it is been installed).

+1

>
> I consider that it is not enough to "see"/read the package
> intention, if the injection(ingestion?) of changes to the system
> is fast, "the user" will receive also more uncertaninty about
> the stability of the system .
> Incremental (and fine grained) incorporation of pieces in a
> guided tour can be more effective; e.g. it is better to make
> incorporations of features as much slow as possible, to let
> the person learn about what is been incorporated and
> act/ask/reflect while understanding what is included.
>

Full, full agree. I think that the chaotic state of Squeak of our days
isn't good to nothing. Not ever going faster is the best option. And
other thing I'm asking in the last times, how many good things of
Squeak we are lossed? (See my mail about Movies stuff).

> If we let "smalltalk users" continue incorporating and using
> instant features, the effect is similar to copy&paste
> ("problems" appears when peolpe do not have time to
> think about it).
>

Sure.

> best,
> Ale.

Cheers.
Germán.



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