[squeak-dev] worst crash yet trying to load stuff from Packages Universe in 3.10.2....

Ralph Johnson johnson at cs.uiuc.edu
Mon Dec 15 12:10:20 UTC 2008

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Keith Hodges <keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> With Sake/Packages, everyone is a czar of packages :-)

Saying "everyone is a czar" is like saying "nobody is a czar".

This is not a packaging tool problem, and it is not a problem that can
be solved with packaging tools.  Package Universe could in theory be
used to solve this problem.  (Sake/Packages might be even better - I'm
not knocking it - I'm just saying it is not a tool problem.)  All that
is necessary is to make sure that every combination of things in the
PU is tested.

It is relatively easy to create your own Package Universe.  The
original idea for PU was that each PU would have an owner, and the
owner would make sure that everything in the PU worked together.
However, what has happened in practice is that there are only a few
PUs, one for each version of Squeak, and each PU has a lot of people
who put things in it.  There is no process for making sure that
everything is tested, so some things are tested and some things are


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