Promoting Squeak/Smalltalk

Juan Vuletich juan at jvuletich.org
Fri Feb 1 01:02:49 UTC 2008


Part of what those libraries do is already in Squeak. Additional stuff 
is freely available in the web (for example my PhotoSqueak image 
processing framework). For sure there is more to be done. I wouldn't 
call that a limitation. It's just that people who needs it should get 
together and do it. That's all. Those Python libraries exists because 
there is a large community of people building and using them.

Cheers,
Juan Vuletich

stephane ducasse wrote:
> Somebody should work on that nd I uderstand your point.
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> On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:31 AM, Robert F. Scheer wrote:
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>> I've only been using Squeak a very short time (for robot main program)
>> and would like to continue, however a rather serious limitation for
>> robotics is computer vision and numerical methods used for things like
>> Kalman and particle filters.  Python, for example, has PIL (Python
>> Imaging Library), numPy (numerical methods) and sciPy (scientific
>> methods), among others.
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>> http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/
>> http://www.scipy.org/
>> http://numpy.scipy.org/
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>> These libraries greatly enhance Python for use in technology fields.
>>
>> I'm too much a novice to venture any opinions on how this point of
>> distinction should or could be considered by the Smalltalk community,
>> but it's definitely something that will affect me personally and must
>> similarly affect others working on robots, electronic instruments,
>> scientific experiments and so forth.
>>
>> - Robert
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>> On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 16:45 -0600, David Zmick wrote:
>>> I have been wondering how to make smalltalk a more "popular" language,
>>> because i think it is excellent, and i think it would be good to try
>>> to get other people to use it, because, i don't notice to many younger
>>> programmers, like myself, using smalltalk, though, i may be wrong.
>>> One of the first thing i would think of to promote smalltalk would be
>>> writing programs in smalltalk instead of just making smalltalk better,
>>> i am not trying to discourage improvement on smalltalk, but if all you
>>> are developing is a language for people to continue to develop a
>>> language in, it seems like a waste of time.  The only program I know
>>> about, as in big, large scale programs, written in smalltalk is
>>> PetroVR, i may be wrong there to, but i see smalltalk as an excellent
>>> development environment and language, but, nothing big is written in
>>> it, and it will never grow if the community is focused entirely on
>>> making smalltalk better.  I might be completely wrong, but that is
>>> what i have seen, but, i have only really payed attention for a couple
>>> of months, and i think it would be good to see some growth in
>>> smalltalk's popularity. :)
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