thanks for this list. The list Keith and I have worked on is at
http://installer.pbwiki.org/311
I must not forget that tools aren't where the real work is.

On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 08:26:24PM +0100, stephane ducasse wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> This is my last email on this topic because I do not want to lose all
> my energy in that. If you can, I can't anymore but at least we proved in 
> the past that
> we ere serious about what we did.
>
> I think that if the goal is to produce a better squeak and bring back 
> changes from croquet, OLPC,
> Sophie: here is a list of items to **work** on:
>
> 	- cleaner/leaner UI framework (may be removing MVC is the way to go 
> first).
> 	- more tests more tests more tests.
> 	- check all the changes one by one from all the streams and good luck.
> 	- better MC (probably MC2 + deltastreams) so that we can get the best of 
> CS and Packages
> 	at the same time. Atomic loading (did you help colin?)
> 	- more tests more tests more tests.
> 	- better packages (in terms of circular dependencies and so on you loading 
> X requires Y that requires X).
> 	- stop maintaining etoy  which is touching too much stuff. (apply the mac 
> approach: deprecated experimental
> 	or old code not maintained anymore).
> 	- better network packages (squeak deserves better).
> 	- UI Builder, better browser (OB?).
> 	- consistent look, unification of browsers (we have far too much of them), 
> shortcut all the way down (squeak 	
> 	should be usable without a mouse).
> 	- better compiler (help enhancing the new compiler) and the old one 
> (compiler error such as variable shadowing
> 	should not just appear in the transcript but a real object).
> 	- harvest fixes (the good ones).
> 	- more tests more tests more tests.
> 	- involve people (our process was clearly not optimal but we ask for help 
> and few were helping us)
> 	but the one of 3.10 was a clear failure in term of its communication with 
> the simple people around like us.
>
> BTW Smaller does not mean cutting shit in pieces, it means better smaller 
> pieces. Because lasagna
> is just a bit better than spaghetti code.
>
> Now if you think that traits is the problem, I urge you to  remove them. 
> This is easy and you will be
> the saver of the great squeak community forever. But I still think that our 
> problems are elsewhere: class
> depending on subclasses, fat interfaces, broken code, deadcode, spaghetti 
> code, old code, lack of documentation,
> lack of tests.
>
> Good luck! you will need a lot of that!
>
> Stef

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