Hi Nicolai,

The reason why the old browser does not exist anymore is that it was  
part of the initial implementation of Nathanael. Since this  
implementation had grown out of research, it contained many  
experiments etc. Therefore, Nathanael and I did a clean new  
implementation of Traits, that is part of 3.9 now. What we did not do  
is port the old browser extension (which was hackish because of the  
inherent problems of the Morphic browser). There have been various  
efforts to implement new GUI support with OmniBrowser, but AFAIK, none  
has reached the state where it is really stable.

Cheers,
Adrian

On Feb 19, 2008, at 09:26 , Nicolai Hess wrote:

>
> After the discussion about traits or no traits I read the paper
> "Traits: Tools and Methodology" and was just about to ask the same
> question. Where to find this Traitsbrowser. So now why does this
> Traitsbrowser not exist anymore? I thought this was very promising.
> I know in the devimage are Omnibrowser extensions for traits, the one
> button next to "instance, class, ?" to showing traits, and maybe  
> some more or
> less hidden functions. But this traits view is a bit confusing. For  
> example the
> class pane slides to the left and what you see in the traitspanel  
> isnt always a triat
> but the same class.
> I also tried the OB-Traitsbrowser(?), is this under further  
> development ?. The last
> time I installed this browser, it nearly freezes my image with  
> terrible long computations
> (for the dynamic protocols I think).
>
>
> Nicolai
>
>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org 
>> >
>> Gesendet: 19.02.08 07:44:00
>> An: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org 
>> >
>> Betreff: Re: install TraitsBrowser?
>
>
>>
>> Hi Trygve,
>>
>> the TraitBrowser as presented in the trait articles does not exist
>> anymore. You can download an image with it, but it will be an old
>> Squeak image. I advise you to download a squeak-dev image
>> http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev.html which contains necessary
>> tools to start working with traits. Feel free to ask any question.
>>
>>
>> Bye
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2008 9:52 PM, Trygve Reenskaug <trygver at ifi.uio.no> wrote:
>>> There is an excellent home page for Traits:
>>>   http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Research/Traits/
>>> It has several very informative articles; it is wonderful to see a
>>> package that is built on solid ground.
>>>
>>> I miss one very important piece of information: How do I install the
>>> latest TraitsBrowser?
>>> (I start from Squeak3.10.gamma.7159 with the addition of my own  
>>> code)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> --Trygve
>>> --
>>>
>>> Trygve Reenskaug       mailto: trygver at ifi.uio.no
>>>
>>> Morgedalsvn. 5A         http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~trygver
>>>
>>> N-0378 Oslo               Tel: (+47) 22 49 57 27
>>>
>>> Norway
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Damien Cassou
>>
>>
>
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