On Jul 8, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Joshua Gargus wrote:

> On Jul 8, 2008, at 5:56 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>
>> 2008/7/8 David P Harris <dpharris at telus.net>:
>>> Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The main principle, which I based on Igor's "islands for CorruptVM"
>>>> suggestion (island term can be confusing to people when used with  
>>>> this new
>>>> MT stuff, must find alternate word), is this:
>>>
>>> island --> continent --> planet --> solar system --> galaxy -->  
>>> universe ?
>>> (Spanish: isla --> continente --> planeta --> Sistema Solar -->  
>>> galaxia -->
>>> universo)
>>> (French: île --> ; continent --> ; planète --> ; système solaire  
>>> --> galaxie
>>> --> ; univers)
>>> (German: Insel --> Kontinent --> Planet --> Sonnensystem -->  
>>> Galaxie -->
>>> Universum)
>>> (Greek: νησί --> ήπειρος --> πλανήτης -->  
>>> ηλιακό σύστημα --> γαλαξίας-->
>>> κόσμος,
>>> (in roman alphabet: nesi --> epeiros --> plantes --> eliako  
>>> systema -->
>>> galasias --> kosmos (take this with a large grain of salt!)
>>>
>>> pints --> quarts --> gallons -> barrels ?
>>>
>>> David
>>
>> Its not confusing to those, who ever heard about Croquet. And island
>> is very precise word in terms of parallel computing:
>> Islands are isolated from each other. To travel from one island to
>> another you need to cross the water.
>>
>
> I think that Klaus is saying (forgive me if I'm wrong) that "Island"  
> is confusing because it already has meaning in Tweak and Croquet.   
> However, I think that the meaning is the same (leaving aside  
> Croquet's notion of replicaion), so there's no need for a new term.   
> I also like the term for the same reason that you do (much better  
> than E's "vat").

Sorry to reply to myself, but an analogy came to me...

Both Java and Squeak have the concept of "Object" and we don't need a  
different word for each (in fact, that would be more confusing).  They  
both mean basically the same thing, even if Squeak objects are  
better ;-)  Similarly, we should use "Island" to refer to variations  
of the same concept.  If it becomes necessary to disambiguate, it's  
easy to refer to a particular instantiation ("CorruptVM Islands") or  
refinement ("replicated Islands") of the concept.

Cheers,
Josh


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> Cheers,
> Josh
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>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>>
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