[squeak-dev] Re: Renaming "Squeak"
ssastre at seaswork.com
Thu Mar 6 14:37:52 UTC 2008
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> [mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] En
> nombre de Igor Stasenko
> Enviado el: Jueves, 06 de Marzo de 2008 09:37
> Para: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Asunto: Re: [squeak-dev] Re: Renaming "Squeak"
> On 06/03/2008, Germán Arduino <garduino at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2008/3/6, Paolo Bonzini <bonzini at gnu.org>:
> > >
> > > >> Heck, not even the image is Smalltalk -- it's just
> an implementation detail.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think so. IMHO the image is one of the
> strongest points. Is
> > > > the context that make possible a lot of things.
> > >
> > >
> > > But it's not like Python or Ruby couldn't have an image,
> it's just that
> > > people did not implement it.
> > I'm currently not interested in Python or Ruby :)
> > > The strong point of Smalltalk is the
> > > language, period.
> > >
> > In your opinion, not in mine. I love the language, but
> don't think is
> > the strong point.
> > > I use Smalltalk without an image daily (except as a
> cache to avoid
> > > parsing 100,000 lines of base classes every other
> minute) and I prefer
> > > it a lot over Ruby (I don't do Python).
> > I respect you opinion and your experience, but not agree. I
> feel very
> > productive using Smalltalk as an environment, not just as
> a language.
> smalltalk without decent dev tools is just another language.
> Yes, you can do much with it, by having only text editor. But you can
> do a times faster/better using environment.
> Best regards,
> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
The language is just a convenient interface we have.
Thanks to lots of efforts we have excellent tools to use in the envionment and taking the environmet as platform. To produce software with a Smalltalk which has not that environment (image), beside to feel kind of raw these days, I guess will induce the developer himself to think about the "convenient" language is REALLY convenient.
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