[squeak-dev] I'm stepping down as WebTeam Leader Mars 31

Stephen Pair stephen at pairhome.net
Fri Mar 14 04:20:47 UTC 2008

I hate to drag this up again, and maybe you've covered it before, but could
you share your reasoning behind licensing Aida as LGPL.  Would you consider
also making it available under MIT?  I personally am hesitant to do anything
with software under any L/GPL type license.  I think others have a similar
concern and that might be an issue if a number of the squeak websites used
Aida.  It's an honest question, I have no agenda here (other than a concern
over L/GPL type licenses).

- Stephen

P.S. My opinion on L/GPL is that these licenses served a useful purpose and
were a necessity to prevent Unix vendors from simply co-opting Stallman's
work at a time when open source wasn't the norm.  But today, the situation
is much different.  Open source is largely accepted and its value well
understood.  GPL and LGPL impose unnecessary restrictions on use and only
serve to complicate matters.  I can appreciate why Stallman is so stuck on
GPL given his experiences, but I think he's sort of stuck in the past.

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek at eranova.si>

> Hi Squeakers,
> I'd like to announce that I'm seriously thinking about helping Squeak
> community with stepping up as a WebTeam team leader.
> Let me introduce myself a bit: I already have an experience building up
> and maintaining content on Aida/Web site and I also got some experience
> how to do promotion and how to do a Search Engine Optimizations (SEO).
> That experience can help to improve a bit otherwise already very rich
> Squeak website. Other possibility for improvement is to upgrade
> technology behind website and here I can again contribute with
> Aida/Scribo CMS, which is a base for Aida's website and is currently in
> intense development, just adding blog support. That way a Squeak website
> will also be a show point of most advanced technology Squeakers have.
> Which is good in my opinion for Squeak and Smalltalk promotion in general.
> To conclude, I can contribute with maintaining content on one side but
> also to upgrade the website technology to Aida/Scribo CMS, so that a
> website will be modern, with fresh and relevant content and with all
> things such site needs to have those days.
> Janko
> Ken Causey wrote:
> > While I'm sure Karl welcomes your thanks it seems like maybe you and
> > some others have missed the point.  Karl is not fishing for comments.
> > In the recent past he has repeatedly announced that he wishes to step
> > down from leading the website team and would like to find a replacement.
> > He has not gotten any replies.  He is now stating that he really is
> > leaving with a specific deadline (the end of this month) and it is now
> > really time for someone to step up and lead the website team for the
> > immediate future at the very least.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 19:29 -0300, Germán Arduino wrote:
> >> I also wants to thank you. The site is updated, interesting, complete
> and cool.
> >>
> >> Thanks you.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2008/3/13, Ron Teitelbaum <Ron at usmedrec.com>:
> >>> Yes indeed thank you very much for your terrific service to the
> community!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Ron Teitelbaum
> >>>
> >>>  > Le 13/03/08, karl <karl.ramberg at comhem.se> écrivait :
> >>>  >
> >>>  > >I've been Webteam leader on the Squeak website for quite a few
> >>>  > years,
> >>>  > >and have now totally lost time to keep that work, so  Mars 31 I
> will
> >>>  > >step down. It's been a fun and interesting experience to maintain
> the
> >>>  > >website, ftp and mailing list.
> >>>  > >
> >>>  > >I recommend that people interested in Squeaks web appearence join
> >>>  > the
> >>>  > >webteam and maybe lead the site into new and exiting areas.
> >>>  > >
> >>>  > >
> >>>  > >Karl
> >>>  >
> >>>  > You did a very good job thank you very much for your time
> --
> Janko Mivšek
> AIDA/Web
> Smalltalk Web Application Server
> http://www.aidaweb.si
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