[squeak-dev] I'm stepping down as WebTeam Leader Mars 31
Stephen Pair
stephen at pairhome.net
Fri Mar 14 14:25:28 UTC 2008
That is excellent news! Thank you.
- Stephen
P.S. While I think having good interoperability with the web world is
important, part of me is saddened by the fact that we still have to live
with the web...the web is crap. I hate it, I'm tried of it, I wish it would
die already. We need something better...much better. And I think the
opportunity for someone to invent that is right now. I think a lot of the
discussion around Silverlight, Flash, Air, etc highlight the fact that
people are hungry for something much better.
P.P.S. And I say this as someone that invested a lot of time a number of
years ago working on Comanche.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek at eranova.si>
wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>
> Well, yes, licenses again. We can relicence to MIT or whatever else,
> because for me all what is important is to use the code in accordance to
> the main rule on our world: a Golden Rule:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity
>
> Best regards
> Janko
>
>
> Stephen Pair wrote:
> > Janko,
> >
> > I hate to drag this up again, and maybe you've covered it before, but
> > could you share your reasoning behind licensing Aida as LGPL. Would you
> > consider also making it available under MIT? I personally am hesitant
> > to do anything with software under any L/GPL type license. I think
> > others have a similar concern and that might be an issue if a number of
> > the squeak websites used Aida. It's an honest question, I have no
> > agenda here (other than a concern over L/GPL type licenses).
> >
> > - Stephen
> >
> > P.S. My opinion on L/GPL is that these licenses served a useful purpose
> > and were a necessity to prevent Unix vendors from simply co-opting
> > Stallman's work at a time when open source wasn't the norm. But today,
> > the situation is much different. Open source is largely accepted and
> > its value well understood. GPL and LGPL impose unnecessary restrictions
> > on use and only serve to complicate matters. I can appreciate why
> > Stallman is so stuck on GPL given his experiences, but I think he's sort
> > of stuck in the past.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek at eranova.si
> > <mailto:janko.mivsek at eranova.si>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Squeakers,
> >
> > I'd like to announce that I'm seriously thinking about helping
> Squeak
> > community with stepping up as a WebTeam team leader.
> >
> > Let me introduce myself a bit: I already have an experience building
> up
> > and maintaining content on Aida/Web site and I also got some
> experience
> > how to do promotion and how to do a Search Engine Optimizations
> (SEO).
> >
> > That experience can help to improve a bit otherwise already very
> rich
> > Squeak website. Other possibility for improvement is to upgrade
> > technology behind website and here I can again contribute with
> > Aida/Scribo CMS, which is a base for Aida's website and is currently
> in
> > intense development, just adding blog support. That way a Squeak
> website
> > will also be a show point of most advanced technology Squeakers
> have.
> > Which is good in my opinion for Squeak and Smalltalk promotion in
> > general.
> >
> > To conclude, I can contribute with maintaining content on one side
> but
> > also to upgrade the website technology to Aida/Scribo CMS, so that a
> > website will be modern, with fresh and relevant content and with all
> > things such site needs to have those days.
> >
> > Janko
> >
> > Ken Causey wrote:
> > > While I'm sure Karl welcomes your thanks it seems like maybe you
> and
> > > some others have missed the point. Karl is not fishing for
> comments.
> > > In the recent past he has repeatedly announced that he wishes to
> step
> > > down from leading the website team and would like to find a
> > replacement.
> > > He has not gotten any replies. He is now stating that he really
> is
> > > leaving with a specific deadline (the end of this month) and it
> > is now
> > > really time for someone to step up and lead the website team for
> the
> > > immediate future at the very least.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 19:29 -0300, Germán Arduino wrote:
> > >> I also wants to thank you. The site is updated, interesting,
> > complete and cool.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks you.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2008/3/13, Ron Teitelbaum <Ron at usmedrec.com
> > <mailto:Ron at usmedrec.com>>:
> > >>> Yes indeed thank you very much for your terrific service to the
> > community!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Ron Teitelbaum
> > >>>
> >
> > >>> > Le 13/03/08, karl <karl.ramberg at comhem.se
> > <mailto:karl.ramberg at comhem.se>> écrivait :
> > >>> >
> > >>> > >I've been Webteam leader on the Squeak website for quite a
> few
> > >>> > years,
> > >>> > >and have now totally lost time to keep that work, so Mars
> > 31 I will
> > >>> > >step down. It's been a fun and interesting experience to
> > maintain the
> > >>> > >website, ftp and mailing list.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >I recommend that people interested in Squeaks web
> > appearence join
> > >>> > the
> > >>> > >webteam and maybe lead the site into new and exiting areas.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >Karl
> > >>> >
> > >>> > You did a very good job thank you very much for your time
> >
> >
> > --
> > Janko Mivšek
> > AIDA/Web
> > Smalltalk Web Application Server
> > http://www.aidaweb.si
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
>
> --
> Janko Mivšek
> AIDA/Web
> Smalltalk Web Application Server
> http://www.aidaweb.si
>
>
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