[squeak-dev] I'm stepping down as WebTeam Leader Mars 31

Jason Rogers jacaetevha at gmail.com
Fri Mar 14 21:35:50 UTC 2008

Thanks Ken.

I have read this thread thoroughly and I understand Brian's
perspective.  I don't have a strong leaning one way or the other,
though I didn't quite care for the tone of Brian's email (though I may
have read into it more than I should have -- which is always possible
in email -- so Sorry Brian if I inferred a tone that you weren't

While I don't claim any authority on the team or the site, here are
some of my concerns (off the top of my head):
- the site ought to be written in Smalltalk
- we need to lessen the burden of disk space, which would require a
lot of (too much?) development in the current site
    - base size of the image is a little hefty
    - if the image holds the data, we have to snapshot and copy the
image -- but if the content is external, we can back up the content
more frequently (with a much better compression rate than the image)
and back up the image much less frequently
- the content should be easily manipulated, without requiring editing
the image directly
- the current image is quite old (3.7 variant, I believe) and doesn't
take advantage of recent improvements in Squeak (FastSocket comes to

There are other concerns (eg. look and feel) that others are welcome
to chime in on.  FWIW: I like the look'n'feel of our site.


On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Ken Causey <ken at kencausey.com> wrote:
> Brad and Jason,
>  I want to explain a little bit about how this discussion got started.
>  You I believe will have noticed the emails from Karl yesterday where he
>  had gotten to the point of wanting the Board to appoint someone to
>  replace him as website team leader because he could not find a
>  replacement.  I insisted that this was not a job for the Board and he
>  needed to give the community one more chance and make it as clear as
>  possible that there was no more time to wait around, someone needed to
>  step up now.
>  After that I was thinking about why no one had stepped up previously and
>  I had come to the conclusion that no one was interested in a job that
>  seemed like merely drudgework making minor changes to an existing site.
>  It occurred to me that many capable people might be interested if only
>  they could make a more significant change.
>  At the same time I had just logged onto #squeak and looked around at the
>  people in the channel and wondered if any of them seemed like likely
>  candidates to me and whether I could talk any of them into volunteering.
>  After looking around the only one I could think of was Janko Mivsek.
>  Janko is pretty active in wanting to promote Aida and it occured to me
>  that he might find the idea of building a new Squeak.org site using Aida
>  as very attractive and because it would be a visible representative of
>  Aida he would have an interest in maintaining the site over the long
>  term.  So I asked him if he would be interested.
>  In the back of my mind (well maybe more in the foreground than that) I
>  wondered why no one from the Seaside community had stepped up and it
>  occurred to me that Janko stepping up might spur one of them to also do
>  so.  That has yet to happen.
>  However please note that someone else has stepped up and that is Brian
>  Rice.  Brian is not happy about having Janko involved and is interested
>  more in maintaining something more like the status quo although possibly
>  switching to a Seaside hosted website.  I recommend that you talk to
>  Brian and see if you can work with him and what he has in mind.
>  Also of course one of you would be welcome to step forward.  Jason was
>  the previous team leader of course so maybe he feels he has done his
>  stint.  Your turn Brad?
>  Ken

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