[squeak-dev] [ANN] Public discuss about 'rules' of 3.10 and his possible branches

Igor Stasenko siguctua at gmail.com
Thu May 15 13:34:40 UTC 2008


2008/5/15 Edgar J. De Cleene <edgardec2001 at yahoo.com.ar>:
> To all:
>
> At the moment I'm doing 3.10.1 , my decision is going back to old trusted
> .cs policy for have updates as fast we could have.
>
> Now , Matthew and Keith come with outstanding technology ( Congratulations !
> BRAVO!) , I have #unloadTraits and a Squeak3.10-7164-WT-basic.image for
> daily work , so I know if any wrong could come.
>
> I joining to #IRC with this and I was working on my game SlidesStones.pr
> also in this image.
> The .pr until now could be saved and loaded into old dirty
> Squeak3.9b-7051.image I have and also into FunSqueak.
> All this could give me info about tons of troubles in advance.
>
> The complete test was run as we do on Mac, Windows XP, Simply Linux 6.5.
> Same results as regular release.
>
> By now, I left Traits until Board give us his final decision.
>
> We could have a 3.10.2 version 'regular' , and a SqueakWT.3.10.2 or Squeak
> 3.10.2-WT or appropriate name picked for a NO Traits version.
>
> So we could have two branches and all could be happy or maybe not.
>
> >From the five meeting all we doing on web and Matthew was hosting and
> documenting.
>
> We need DS or MC2
>
> Both "teams" say in turn need SystemEditor.
>
> My suggestion to Randall and Ken is we need rebuild 3.10 from where 3.9 was.
> I need first hand experience for troubles.
> It's my decision take MC2 as I meet with Colin in person and as he
> understand enough Spanish seems me a sure bet.
>
> Anybody don't trust Colin ?
>
> We need improve the 3.10 for the record of changes , too mumbo jumbo.
> Lots of people is buying excellent book of Stephanne and unloading 3.9
>
> At some point this people realize they should upgrade.
> The current way of updates (the button on the Squeak flap ) is rough, not
> always could work, need more as newbie knowledge, using our actual updates.
>
> That's is why I say we should have a complete rebuild.
> I say I put 3.10.2 and 3.10.2WT on the Board table at time ESUG begins.
> 3.10.2 is 3.10 rebuilded and Traits
> 3.10.2-WT means WITHOUT TRAITS
>

I think it would be better when
3.10.2-WT (without traits)
can be easily transformed to
3.10.2-WT (with traits)
by loading package or changeset.

Making traits loadable / unloadable gives us much more freedom in choice.

> So I ask for feedback .
> And no more F1 , no jokes, strict to business.
> Ustedes se lo pierden :=)
>
> Edgar
>
>
>
>
> Edgar
>


-- 
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.



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