The lively kernel seems to be pretty snappy on it.
- Stephen

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Andreas Raab <andreas.raab at gmx.de> wrote:

> Ron Welch wrote:
>
>>
>> The source code is available at: http://code.google.com/p/v8/
>>
>>
> I'm looking at it now ;-) Talk about a game-changer...
>
> Cheers,
>  - Andreas
>
>
>> On 9/2/08 3:23 PM, "John M McIntosh" <johnmci at smalltalkconsulting.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>    From: Dave Griswold <David.Griswold.256 at gmail.com>
>>    Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:14:32 -0700 (PDT)
>>    Subject: Chrome and V8
>>    To: Strongtalk-general <strongtalk-general at googlegroups.com>
>>
>>
>>    Hi everyone,
>>
>>    It's been a while, but now that Google has announced Chrome and V8, I
>>    can finally make a little clearer a major reason why I haven't been
>>    pushing Strongtalk development for quite a while: Chrome's new
>>    JavaScript engine V8.
>>
>>    The V8 development team has multiple members of the original
>>    Animorphic team; it is headed by Lars Bak, who was the technical lead
>>    for both Strongtalk and the HotSpot Java VM (as well as a huge
>>    contributor to the original Self VM).   I think that you will find
>>    that V8 has a lot of the creamy goodness of the Strongtalk and Self
>>    VMs, with many big architectural improvements:
>>
>>    * open source
>>    * will run (eventually) on Windows, Linux, and Mac
>>    * dynamically JITs to native code
>>    * can run completely independently from the browser
>>    * generates hidden classes behind the scenes, since javascript doesn't
>>    have them (very reminiscent of the 'maps' used in the Self VM).
>>    * is multi-threaded from the ground up, with the ability to share VM
>>    overhead between different OS processes.
>>    * has even smaller object headers than in Strongtalk, making small
>>    object overhead even smaller
>>    * kick-ass compacting, non-conservative garbage collector
>>
>>    The really big deal here is the fundamentally multi-threaded, multi-
>>    process nature of the VM.  That is something that we don't really have
>>    the ability to just hack into the Strongtalk VM; it would involve
>>    practically an entire rewrite.  Plus, expect a lot of architectural
>>    improvements in the source code based on experience with Self,
>>    Strongtalk and Java Hotspot VMs.
>>
>>    I think these properties will rapidly make V8 the dominant VM for
>>    dynamic languages.  It ought to make a great platform for Smalltalk.
>>
>>    Since I am not a Googler, and they are so secretive, I am not yet
>>    privy to all the gory details, but I suspect that it probably won't
>>    use type-feedback like Strongtalk, which would be the one big negative
>>    (and would mean that it wouldn't be as fast as Strongtalk).  However I
>>    don't know that for sure, and in any case it will be open source,
>>    which means that it might be a nice platform to add type-feedback-
>>    based inlining to if they don't do it.  At any rate, it *does* JIT to
>>    native code, so it will be far faster than Squeak, and probably a lot
>>    faster than Visualworks as well.
>>
>>    We'll have to see what the details are when the code comes out, but
>>    the release of the V8 VM is the beginning of a whole new era for
>>    dynamic languages (Smalltalk, Ruby, Python, etc).
>>
>>    Let the flood of fast new dynamic language implementations begin!
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