Is there any chance the Pharo folks would be open to exploring whether Cuis 
can be used as a base for their work?  It might let them focus on what they 
*really* want for Pharo.

Looking at the Pharo milestones 
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Milestones I see many not-yet-done 
things that overlap Cuis and that are already done in Cuis:
- default in-image fonts
- etoys removal
- re-org MorphicExtras
- remove SqueakMap & Installer
- License clean

... plus Cuis size & responsiveness is great :-):

In the medium+ term I suspect it would speed up their progress.

If they are, is there any chance Juan would be open to helping them get 
there?

Of course given the moving parts and people this may be a silly question, 
but I just thought I would ask.

My 2c -- Sophie


"Juan Vuletich" <juan at jvuletich.org> wrote in message 
news:49E48622.1030608 at jvuletich.org...
> Hi Folks,
>
> I've updated Cuis to #0182. I included a couple of fixes to issues in 
> Polygons and Curves found by Jerome, and a new keyboard focus indicator. 
> (No more annoying flashing!)
>
> You can download www.jvuletich.org/Cuis/Cuis1.0-0182.zip . In that folder 
> there is also a zip with change sets that could be useful for other Squeak 
> distributions, and text descriptions of them.
>
> Cheers,
> Juan Vuletich
>
> Ps: I also updated the 'About' text as follows:
>
> About Cuis
>
> Cuis is a Smalltalk environment derived from Squeak (www.squeak.org). Main 
> project web is at www.jvuletich.org/Cuis
>
> The main idea behind Cuis is to avoid unneeded complexity. Why? Because 
> complexity puts a limit to the level of understanding of the system a 
> person might reach, and therefore limits the things that can be done. Dan 
> Ingalls says all this in "Design Principles Behind Smalltalk" (a must 
> read!).
>
> My passion is about finding the essence of ideas. In this regard I feel 
> close to Alan's "Fundamentals of new Computing" ideas. But as I'm not a 
> researcher, and I want a working system now, I am trying to distill the 
> essence of Smalltalk-80 in Squeak drop by drop.
>
> Some of the main ideas and objectives for Cuis are:
>
> - Close to Smalltalk-80 and Dan Ingalls' ideas
> - Include only kernel functionality. Remove stuff considered optional
> - Included stuff should be in very good shape.
> - Include a greatly reduced version of Morphic as the main UI
> - Easy to fix and extend
> - Share fixes and enhancements with Squeak
> - Stable. Smalltalk kernel should not change much
> - Compatible to a reasonable degree with packages intended for other 
> Squeak distributions
> - Lead by Juan Vuletich (jmv) after these principles
>
> What is the audience? Cuis should be the Smalltalk of choice to:
>
> - Smalltalkers who want a simpler system
> - Teachers teaching Smalltalk
> - People learning Smalltalk
> - Developers working for devices with little memory or CPU power
> - People wanting to experiment with new directions in language design, UI 
> frameworks, etc
> - People wanting a reasonable kernel on which to build optional packages
> - People wanting a nice looking ide that is also portable
>
> Cuis owes its existence to Squeak and the Squeak community. We don't want 
> to form a separate user community. We believe that the Squeak community is 
> the natural place for people using the various Squeak distributions and 
> derivatives. We want to share code and ideas with other Squeak 
> distributions, including the official one.
>
> License
>
> Cuis is distributed subject to the MIT License, as in 
> http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php . Any contribution 
> submitted for incorporation into or for distribution with Cuis shall be 
> presumed subject to the same license.
>
> Portions of Cuis are copyrighted works of many contributors to Squeak, 
> Cuis and related projects.
>
>
>