Hi Sophie,

i'm not an authority in Pharo development, but I can try to give an
incomplete answer:
- yes, Pharo people are certainly interested in Cuis achievements;
- no, I doubt they restart all the hard work having taken place last 9
months or so.

Main Pharo delay is due to integrating changes about Unicode and
Eliot's BlockClosure that are both seen as major features.
I think it is a wise decision, and anyway intermediate 0.1 releases are usable.
... and I don't think these particular features are in Cuis.

Another question is how can progress in various squeak branches be shared...
Keith's Installer/Sake/Bob framework should provide some tools to help.
But I doubt there is an easy answer. Hard work and sweat...

cheers

Nicolas


2009/4/15 Sophie (itsme213) <itsme213 at hotmail.com>:
> Is there any chance the Pharo folks would be open to exploring whether Cuis
> can be used as a base for their work?  It might let them focus on what they
> *really* want for Pharo.
>
> Looking at the Pharo milestones
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Milestones I see many not-yet-done
> things that overlap Cuis and that are already done in Cuis:
> - default in-image fonts
> - etoys removal
> - re-org MorphicExtras
> - remove SqueakMap & Installer
> - License clean
>
> ... plus Cuis size & responsiveness is great :-):
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> In the medium+ term I suspect it would speed up their progress.
>
> If they are, is there any chance Juan would be open to helping them get
> there?
>
> Of course given the moving parts and people this may be a silly question,
> but I just thought I would ask.
>
> My 2c -- Sophie
>
>
> "Juan Vuletich" <juan at jvuletich.org> wrote in message
> news:49E48622.1030608 at jvuletich.org...
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I've updated Cuis to #0182. I included a couple of fixes to issues in
>> Polygons and Curves found by Jerome, and a new keyboard focus indicator.
>> (No more annoying flashing!)
>>
>> You can download www.jvuletich.org/Cuis/Cuis1.0-0182.zip . In that folder
>> there is also a zip with change sets that could be useful for other Squeak
>> distributions, and text descriptions of them.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Juan Vuletich
>>
>> Ps: I also updated the 'About' text as follows:
>>
>> About Cuis
>>
>> Cuis is a Smalltalk environment derived from Squeak (www.squeak.org). Main
>> project web is at www.jvuletich.org/Cuis
>>
>> The main idea behind Cuis is to avoid unneeded complexity. Why? Because
>> complexity puts a limit to the level of understanding of the system a
>> person might reach, and therefore limits the things that can be done. Dan
>> Ingalls says all this in "Design Principles Behind Smalltalk" (a must
>> read!).
>>
>> My passion is about finding the essence of ideas. In this regard I feel
>> close to Alan's "Fundamentals of new Computing" ideas. But as I'm not a
>> researcher, and I want a working system now, I am trying to distill the
>> essence of Smalltalk-80 in Squeak drop by drop.
>>
>> Some of the main ideas and objectives for Cuis are:
>>
>> - Close to Smalltalk-80 and Dan Ingalls' ideas
>> - Include only kernel functionality. Remove stuff considered optional
>> - Included stuff should be in very good shape.
>> - Include a greatly reduced version of Morphic as the main UI
>> - Easy to fix and extend
>> - Share fixes and enhancements with Squeak
>> - Stable. Smalltalk kernel should not change much
>> - Compatible to a reasonable degree with packages intended for other
>> Squeak distributions
>> - Lead by Juan Vuletich (jmv) after these principles
>>
>> What is the audience? Cuis should be the Smalltalk of choice to:
>>
>> - Smalltalkers who want a simpler system
>> - Teachers teaching Smalltalk
>> - People learning Smalltalk
>> - Developers working for devices with little memory or CPU power
>> - People wanting to experiment with new directions in language design, UI
>> frameworks, etc
>> - People wanting a reasonable kernel on which to build optional packages
>> - People wanting a nice looking ide that is also portable
>>
>> Cuis owes its existence to Squeak and the Squeak community. We don't want
>> to form a separate user community. We believe that the Squeak community is
>> the natural place for people using the various Squeak distributions and
>> derivatives. We want to share code and ideas with other Squeak
>> distributions, including the official one.
>>
>> License
>>
>> Cuis is distributed subject to the MIT License, as in
>> http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php . Any contribution
>> submitted for incorporation into or for distribution with Cuis shall be
>> presumed subject to the same license.
>>
>> Portions of Cuis are copyrighted works of many contributors to Squeak,
>> Cuis and related projects.
>>
>>
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