[squeak-dev] Pharo:: Re: Cuis update
hernan.wilkinson at gmail.com
Fri Apr 17 02:20:13 UTC 2009
isn't it there a way to try it automatically? it is Smalltalk... I'm not
saying it is going to work 100% but...Maybe something like this:
1) Load each method of cuis that is different or does not exist in
2) For each method that is in pharo/squeak that is not is cuis and it does
not have reference, remove it
3) ssomething similar for variables, classes, etc
4) Try pharo/squeak and see how it works! :-)
Just an idea...
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Sophie (itsme213) <itsme213 at hotmail.com>wrote:
> Is there any chance the Pharo folks would be open to exploring whether Cuis
> can be used as a base for their work? It might let them focus on what they
> *really* want for Pharo.
> Looking at the Pharo milestones
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Milestones I see many not-yet-done
> things that overlap Cuis and that are already done in Cuis:
> - default in-image fonts
> - etoys removal
> - re-org MorphicExtras
> - remove SqueakMap & Installer
> - License clean
> ... plus Cuis size & responsiveness is great :-):
> In the medium+ term I suspect it would speed up their progress.
> If they are, is there any chance Juan would be open to helping them get
> Of course given the moving parts and people this may be a silly question,
> but I just thought I would ask.
> My 2c -- Sophie
> "Juan Vuletich" <juan at jvuletich.org> wrote in message
> news:49E48622.1030608 at jvuletich.org...
> > Hi Folks,
> > I've updated Cuis to #0182. I included a couple of fixes to issues in
> > Polygons and Curves found by Jerome, and a new keyboard focus indicator.
> > (No more annoying flashing!)
> > You can download www.jvuletich.org/Cuis/Cuis1.0-0182.zip . In that
> > there is also a zip with change sets that could be useful for other
> > distributions, and text descriptions of them.
> > Cheers,
> > Juan Vuletich
> > Ps: I also updated the 'About' text as follows:
> > About Cuis
> > Cuis is a Smalltalk environment derived from Squeak (www.squeak.org).
> > project web is at www.jvuletich.org/Cuis
> > The main idea behind Cuis is to avoid unneeded complexity. Why? Because
> > complexity puts a limit to the level of understanding of the system a
> > person might reach, and therefore limits the things that can be done. Dan
> > Ingalls says all this in "Design Principles Behind Smalltalk" (a must
> > read!).
> > My passion is about finding the essence of ideas. In this regard I feel
> > close to Alan's "Fundamentals of new Computing" ideas. But as I'm not a
> > researcher, and I want a working system now, I am trying to distill the
> > essence of Smalltalk-80 in Squeak drop by drop.
> > Some of the main ideas and objectives for Cuis are:
> > - Close to Smalltalk-80 and Dan Ingalls' ideas
> > - Include only kernel functionality. Remove stuff considered optional
> > - Included stuff should be in very good shape.
> > - Include a greatly reduced version of Morphic as the main UI
> > - Easy to fix and extend
> > - Share fixes and enhancements with Squeak
> > - Stable. Smalltalk kernel should not change much
> > - Compatible to a reasonable degree with packages intended for other
> > Squeak distributions
> > - Lead by Juan Vuletich (jmv) after these principles
> > What is the audience? Cuis should be the Smalltalk of choice to:
> > - Smalltalkers who want a simpler system
> > - Teachers teaching Smalltalk
> > - People learning Smalltalk
> > - Developers working for devices with little memory or CPU power
> > - People wanting to experiment with new directions in language design, UI
> > frameworks, etc
> > - People wanting a reasonable kernel on which to build optional packages
> > - People wanting a nice looking ide that is also portable
> > Cuis owes its existence to Squeak and the Squeak community. We don't want
> > to form a separate user community. We believe that the Squeak community
> > the natural place for people using the various Squeak distributions and
> > derivatives. We want to share code and ideas with other Squeak
> > distributions, including the official one.
> > License
> > Cuis is distributed subject to the MIT License, as in
> > http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php . Any contribution
> > submitted for incorporation into or for distribution with Cuis shall be
> > presumed subject to the same license.
> > Portions of Cuis are copyrighted works of many contributors to Squeak,
> > Cuis and related projects.
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