Gary Chambers wrote:
> If I get some time it may be possible to factor out the changes.
> Commercial pressures drive our work, of course.

Obviously.

> How do you mean "trade it, say, for MVC"?

Unload one, load the other instead.

Cheers,
   - Andreas


> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Raab" <andreas.raab at gmx.de>
> To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" 
> <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:46 PM
> Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Title bar bug on trunk
> 
> 
>> Gary Chambers wrote:
>>> Of course, Polymorph fixes the title-bar font/gripper issue. Feel 
>>> free to pick the bones out of it.
>>
>> How about integrating it instead of picking bones? I have not looked 
>> at Polymorph in detail and someone knowledgeable (i.e., you ;-) would 
>> have to help with it, but it seems like a valuable addition. If we can 
>> trade it, say, for MVC, it shouldn't make much of a difference in size 
>> either.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>   - Andreas
>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Trudel" <ian.trudel at gmail.com>
>>> To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" 
>>> <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Re: Title bar bug on trunk
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2009/8/15 Andreas Raab <andreas.raab at gmx.de>:
>>>>> Ian Trudel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another issue but with the trunk. I have tried to update code from 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> trunk into my image but there's a proxy error with source.squeak.org
>>>>>> right at this minute, which causes Squeak to freeze for a minute or
>>>>>> two trying to reach the server.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems to be fine now. Probably just a temporary issue.
>>>>
>>>> However, I don't think such issue should entirely freeze Squeak. An
>>>> unresponsive UI isn't really the way to go.
>>>>
>>>>>> Concretely, does it mean we are limited in the font sizes for any
>>>>>> given font loaded into Squeak?
>>>>>
>>>>> It just means we should limit ourselves. We can include more fonts 
>>>>> but each
>>>>> takes a good chunk of memory (depending on point size) so we should 
>>>>> pick
>>>>> them carefully. You might want to ask Juan if he can post a "full" 
>>>>> set of
>>>>> point sizes somewhere that people can load and then we pick the 
>>>>> three most
>>>>> relevant sizes ("small", "regular" and "title" font). The current 
>>>>> set was
>>>>> picked by Juan and it works well for me.
>>>>
>>>> The current set isn't bad at all, I must admit. The title is just a
>>>> point too big in my opinion. The fonts included are listed in World
>>>> Menu > Appearance > System fonts > List fonts ? Juan, is it
>>>> customizable?
>>>>
>>>>>> Editing the workspace doesn't produce a change set nor monticello
>>>>>> recognize the change. I am not exactly sure how to push this 
>>>>>> change in
>>>>>> a monticello way. If you give me quick instructions, I will be 
>>>>>> glad to
>>>>>> do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the weaknesses of Monticello. I'd recommend adding a menu 
>>>>> entry in
>>>>> the help menu (or reusing the "about this system..." entry) to put 
>>>>> up a
>>>>> workspace with the proper text. Then you can construct the text via:
>>>>>
>>>>> text := 'Here goes the red bold text.!
>>>>> ]style[(14 3 1 4 6)f1,f1cred;,f1,f1b,f1!' readStream nextChunkText.
>>>>> (Workspace new contents: text) openLabel: 'About this image'.
>>>>>
>>>>> To create the formatting for the text, simply inspect a workspace and
>>>>> execute:
>>>>>
>>>>> String streamContents: [:s| s nextChunkPutWithStyle: model contents].
>>>>>
>>>>> This should do the trick.
>>>>
>>>> Now everything seems clear. My first thought was to save an image,
>>>> which isn't gonna cut it with Monticello. What you propose is to add a
>>>> button to open a new window, rather than providing a trunk image with
>>>> the license notice already present. It doesn't feel quite right.
>>>> Wouldn't it be possible to save a project and upload it to a
>>>> repository? Or, perhaps, we should have a container class to prepare
>>>> the trunk image, where a project could be stored.
>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>  - Andreas
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Ian.
>>>> -- 
>>>> http://mecenia.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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