[squeak-dev] Trunk commits

Ronald Spengler ron.spengler at gmail.com
Tue Aug 25 00:59:14 UTC 2009


Whenever I'm thinking about a clever solution for a problem that I don't
quite have yet, I go back to this page and meditate:
http://c2.com/xp/YouArentGonnaNeedIt.html

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2009/8/24 Ken Causey <ken at kencausey.com>:
> > +1
> >
> > On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 00:07 +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> >> On 23.08.2009, at 23:51, Michael van der Gulik wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi all.
> >> >
> >> > Would it perhaps be better to have the automated trunk commit
> >> > messages going to some other dedicated mailing list?
> >> >
> >> > Gulik.
> >>
> >>
> >> I was curious how long it would take the first one to speak up :)
> >>
> >> No, I would rather create a squeak-users list for those not interested
> >> in developing Squeak itself, but just "with" Squeak. IMHO the commits
> >> messages make the community development process visible, which is a
> >> Good Thing.
> >>
> >> - Bert -
> >
> > If we have to do anything about this then I think it is time we
> > seriously consider a separate "squeak users" mailing list.  I would
> > rather that users have to consider going from 'developer' to 'user'
> > rather than from 'user' to 'developer'; by which I mean that I would
> > prefer that we change the definition of squeak-dev and make another list
> > the 'user' list, rather than create a new developer list.  Perhaps we
> > should consider renaming the beginners list 'squeak-users' or the like.
> > This would have the added benefit of bringing more eyes to bear on
> > beginners requests.
> >
>
> +1
> a list name - "squeak-dev" speaks for itself.
> I can understand that some of list readers never contributed to
> squeak, or contributed occasionally, and mainly staying with it to be
> in touch with latest & hottest news and discussions around squeak. But
> let's not forget the main purpose of the list.
>
> Do trunk commits increasing mail traffic? Absolutely.
> Can they be easily filtered by users who reading the list? Absolutely.
> So, where is the problem?
>
> Do such commits increasing the process visibility and giving everyone
> a chance to evaluate and examine the changes as soon as they become
> available? Yes.
> So, given that this improves the development process (even by a bit) i
> think it overweights any inconveniences, such as increase in mail
> traffic, and everyone who understands that our main "employment" in
> squeak-dev list should be a development of Squeak, also should only
> wellcome such move :)
>
>
> > Ken
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>
>
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