[squeak-dev] Re: State of Testing in Squeak

Ken Causey ken at kencausey.com
Fri Dec 4 00:43:31 UTC 2009

On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 15:54 -0800, Andreas Raab wrote:
> Ken Causey wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 13:36 -0800, Ronald Spengler wrote:
> >> Would the people of the community be receptive to moving long running
> >> tests out to a separately loadable package?
> > 
> > I fear that separating a subset of tests from the rest will result in
> > them being largely forgotten and unused.
> True, but which choice is preferable: Having a few tests never run, or 
> having no tests ever run? (hey, that rhymes! ;-)
> Cheers,
>    - Andreas

I think 'never' is the wrong word.  What I'm thinking of is an option to
not run the long running tests that defaults to running all tests and
actually requires some small effort from the user with hopefully at
least a little thought and recognition that the other tests do exist.
Separating out the long running tests into a separate package likely
means newcomers are never aware of them and the rest of us forget about
them, they are no longer maintained, and that's the end of them.  If a
test is truly not useful, or at least never worth the running time
required, fine just delete it;  but I have to assume that is not
generally the case otherwise it would have already happened.

I agree that currently running all the tests is not something you do
without thought, but it's not that bad.  I'm using a 7 or 8 year old
system and continuing to do other work while the tests run and they
finish in 30-45 minutes for me.

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