[squeak-dev] Re: Unix updates

Andreas Raab andreas.raab at gmx.de
Wed Dec 16 14:20:08 UTC 2009

Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> And then what? 

How the heck do I know? ;-) But you are sounding self-contradicting 
here. This discussion started with you pointing out that you wouldn't 
expect to find anything current in the package management system of 
choice. As a consequence I've been trying to find some ways by which we 
could get users the information that there's something more up to date. 
But now you're saying leave it to the distro maintainers? Isn't that 
directly contradicting your initial statement? If we assume that the 
packages are generally current, then there's no point whatsoever to this 
entire discussion (which started by Igor pointing out that current 
packages are *not* current).

   - Andreas

> Linux has advanced beyond "./configure; make; make install". Downloading a tarball feels antiquated. Regular users don't do that anymore unless they absolutely have to. Package maintainers do and bundle this in a package for their distro.
> Even downloading a DEB or RPM from random web sites doesn't make it much better, because this interferes with distro packages, again bypassing the official update mechanism.
> IMHO the debs and rpms on squeak.org should be removed, and maintenance moved to the respective distros. Empower and support the maintainers, like Debian's José Redrejo or Fedora's Gavin Romig-Koch or Mandriva's Aleksey Lim.
> - Bert -

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