[squeak-dev] Re: Google Summer of Code 2009

Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel at cobss.com
Fri Feb 20 08:51:22 UTC 2009

On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:18:23 +0100, Andreas Raab wrote:

> Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:08:17 +0100, Andreas Raab wrote:
>>> Your question may be worthwhile asking, but Aik-Siong Koh is probably  
>>> not the person to direct it to. You might want to ask the students who  
>>> took the money and didn't deliver.
>>  Just for the records, a small piece for the uninformed: every mentor  
>> had his say whether or not any of the student delivered or not. AFAIK  
>> every student delivered.
> Then I really don't understand what your criticism is aiming at.

Oh. it was about someone (the former admin) and the private/secret hand  

> Your comment read like disappointment about the results but in Aik-Siong  
> Koh's case I know that not only was the project delivered, it is  
> actually being shipped in the current Cobalt builds.

I'm sorry, "results" was brought into the thread by you. I leave it there.

>>> BTW, I find this line of questioning completely irrelevant for the  
>>> position we are talking about which is strictly administrative.
>>  Not that I believe that, Andreas ;) but you're of course free to  
>> object to/any person you [dis-] like ;)
> I am not objecting to any person. I am supporting Aik-Siong Koh. If the  
> board decides to support someone else, fine. But I think Aik-Siong Koh  
> can fill the job and having more people involved in running the  
> community affairs might be a good thing.

Again, nothing against that from me.

>>> Aik-Siong Koh has been a mentor last year, involved in the entire  
>>> process and short of actually running the process that is as much  
>>> qualification as anyone can ask for.
>>  Sure, same for the other mentors.
> Certainly. If we have multiple contenders for the position the board  
> should choose.

Board, speak up!

> I have no problem with that. However ... none of this is a reason to  
> accuse people that they've been "taking the money and run".

This couldn't have be meant about Aik-Siong Koh, who (how come we know  
this all) was *not* in charge in 2007 and 2008.

But now that you write that I checked the emails sent by/exchanged with  
Ellen Ko <koe at google.com> two weeks ago, about the mess with payment and  
found that you wheren't cc'ed (but the other mentors where). It looks like  
none of you co-mentors where cc'ed.

> Cheers,
>    - Andreas

"If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it".  
Albert Einstein

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