>
> OK, so then we have a minimal image. How then do we see it is used as the
> kernel for etoys, croquet, spoon, pharo, etc? I think Matthew's point is
> less about producing a minimal image and more about forks standardising on
> core packages incrementally until they eventually agree with each other on
> some notion of a kernel image.
>
> If I understand correctly the images mentioned in this thread,
> SqueakLightII, MorphicCore etc would all be expected to adopt these standard
> packages.
>
> My suggestion is that only an image which includes standard packages alone
> should be called a core image (and then only if one is needed? Would it be
> needed?). I'd reserve the term kernel image for the types of images Eliot
> and others are discussing.
>
> - Zulq
>

Seems no one heard a word Matthew said.  The idea that all those different
forks will adopt some minimal kernel image is frankly absurd and highly
unlikely to ever happen.  Matthew's correct, the best we could hope for
would be to get them using common core packages and even that isn't trivial
and requires workers rather than board members.

Andreas is the only person I've seen proposing anything at all pragmatic for
the board to do.  They should stop trying to plan the future and start
harvesting the present,  get things that are done and proven into the main
image.  If it isn't done, and already in use by some subset of the community
then it shouldn't exist in the eyes of the board.

This idea that the board should be leading things is frankly flawed, all the
forked version of and sub-communities of Squeak are the real leaders,
they're the ones doing the work, experimenting with new ideas both good and
bad, and making progress, the board should be following them and picking out
the usable pieces for inclusion in the mainline Squeak, or better yet,
Matthew's idea of core packages and forget the idea of a main Squeak image
altogether.

Ramon Leon
http://onsmalltalk.com
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