Usability and look-and-feel (was Re: [squeak-dev] The future of Squeak & Pharo (was Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo MIT license clean))

Ramon Leon ramon.leon at allresnet.com
Wed Jul 1 04:19:19 UTC 2009


> Bert, are you serious?
>
> Enough with the children! It's been done and redone and overdone. The
> past and the future confounded. Why can't we live the present living?
> You're talking about something that might (or might not) produce
> engineers in the next, say, 20 years? Smalltalk will be around 50
> years by then. I find it painful that our community wouldn't be a
> little bit more practical, for a change..
>
> Right here, right now.
>
> Ian.
>
> PS: I am so sorry... I don't even have spare children to furiously
> train on Squeak...
>
> --
> http://mecenia.blogspot.com/

+10

Seriously, stop talking about kids, who cares, I'll be retired by the
time they're useful.  Programming languages are tools that are
primarily used by and useful for adults, they should be aimed at
adults.  I want Smalltalk to be usable now, not at some unspecified
time in some imaginary future where it takes over the world by getting
kids before they've been introduced to other environments.  It's pure
fantasy to think this'll happen, it won't.  This is the attitude that
holds Squeak back and prevents anyone from taking it too seriously.
This is why Pharo will continue to steal mind-share and Squeak will
die.

Ramon Leon
http://onsmalltalk.com



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