Keith Hodges wrote:
> Göran Krampe wrote:
>   
>> Hi folks!
>>
>> I am getting tired of the heated up tone...
>>
>> I started this darn thread (you may recall) and I just wanted a good
>> discussion with some good results.
>>
>> Noone should feel being driven away. These effects in these
>> discussions are normal - when people work hard on things and then
>> seemingly noone is noticing it hurts a bit.
>>
>> Keith is probably hurt in this way, and so are others.
>>     
> Not hurt just getting pissed off.
>
> One minute the board is a non-intervening non-relevant talk shop, that
> can safely be ignored. The next it is taking over completely, and
> throwing grenades in all directions.
>
> One minute a board representative says, relax a bit on 3.11 since 4.0 is
> the important thing, oh and 4.0 is stalled because of the need to talk
> to the lawyers
>   
To be fair though, that's the same thing. Talking to the lawyers is a 
necessary step towards the stated goal of 4.0.

> If it wants 3.11 then it should monitor and encourage the team that it
> appointed, it should not be deciding how the work is to be done. The
> least it should do is talk to the people involved.
>   
But here, without speaking to the niceness or otherwise of Andreas' 
proposal, I'd have to agree. Sounds like a good time for you and Andreas 
to talk, yes?

frank