[squeak-dev] Re: A New Community Development Model

Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda at gmail.com
Thu Jul 2 17:51:01 UTC 2009


On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Klaus D. Witzel <klaus.witzel at cobss.com>wrote:

> Hi Eliot,
>
> Bob & things are discussed and reported on the release-team list, see for
> example
>
> -
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/release/2009-February/000072.html


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> /Klaus
>
>
> On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:08:11 +0200, Eliot Miranda wrote:
>
>  Hi Keith,
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:20 AM, Keith Hodges <keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  The existing community development model works fine enough.
>>>
>>> 1. Submit changes as change sets to mantis.
>>>
>>> 2. Bob builds and tests the changes in a basic image, a dev image and a
>>> full image
>>>
>>> While you need your changes, and await the release with your fixes
>>> integrated into it, you can load them manually from Mantis.
>>>
>>> 3. When Bob builds the new release he automatically loads changesets
>>> from mantis, and fills in the MC repositories together with commit
>>> messages.
>>>
>>> The result is an image that looks as though it has been managed with MC,
>>> but the work is submitted in changesets that we all prefer.
>>>
>>> This is an open process, and you can see what is due for inclusion or
>>> not by querying mantis.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I just went to squeak.org and followed community links and I can find no
>> reference to Bob.  The things I want to be able to see and find easily are
>>
>> 1. sample images
>> 2. list of packages loaded in the image
>> 3. test results (name of class, number of green, yellow and red tests, and
>> if possible the assertion that failed or the error message for each yellow
>> and red test).
>>
>> How do I get at this kind of info?  If I can't get at this then Bob is an
>> abstraction I don't understand and can't trust.  If it is manifested then
>> it
>> needs to be findable easily from squeak.org.
>>
>> Now if certain members of the board would volunteer to contribute to the
>>
>>> process, rather than replacing it without discussion, we would all be a
>>> lot better of.
>>>
>>> best regards
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>
>>
>> best
>> Eliot
>>
>
>
>
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