[squeak-dev] Re: I18-23N [was: The future of Squeak & Pharo ... etc]
Klaus D. Witzel
klaus.witzel at cobss.com
Sun Jun 28 20:02:56 UTC 2009
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:49:07 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
> 2009/6/28 Klaus D. Witzel :
>> On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:35:45 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
>>> 2009/6/28 Klaus D. Witzel :
>>>> On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:05:30 +0200, Ian Trudel wrote:
>>>>> I like your ideas, Casimiro. And a lot of boring work, as you would
>>>>> call, but I call it maintenance, has to be done. Internationalization
>>>>> is among the point that prevents me to use Squeak.
>>>> Ian, would it be possible you send me a list of what things _you_ need
>>>> internationalization. That would be very interesting in a current
>>> Oh, I forgot the usual things. Unicode normalization, collators, date,
>>> number and currency formatting, unicode regexes.
>> Don't get me wrong now: I know you're talking about your framework,
> No, not at all. These are more a 21st century programming language
> "features" that just "have to be there".
I do not care :) this is like: Ma get me that car over there. Instead, I
want to test/and or integrate, this is why I asked.
>> can you
>> point me to more specific locations (release/version, class name, method
>> name) or so?
> No. AFAIK some of this stuff in on the roadmap for VW 7.7.
> This is what most PHP frameworks use these days and you feel kinda 2nd
> class compared to them if you don't provide it.
>>> Basically what ICU does.
>> Assume that some other project has something new (in a recent .image on
>> Squeak VM).
> Not that I know of.
Can't you just follow the words "assume that, for the next line, that ...".
>> How can your stuff be tested with it? Would it be necessary to refactor
>> app, or can a project man like me do this and that, test this and that
>> (!) ?
> There isn't any of the stuff.
I asked for existing apps who need it. If there is no need, how can I test
adding I18-23 support? I think you got me wrong.
> That's just some of the things that I
> consider missing in Squeak in the l10n area.
"If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it".
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