[squeak-dev] Re: What's the problem people? :)

Andreas Raab andreas.raab at gmx.de
Wed Mar 4 17:42:00 UTC 2009


+1

And yes, I feel just as cheerful. Must be something in the air or so :-)

Cheers,
   - Andreas

Göran Krampe wrote:
> Hi Pharaos (and Squeak-dev)! :)
> 
> Alert to Pharaos: This is a cross post! (hehe)
> 
> I just wanted to say (for whatever that is worth) that I like Pharo. And 
> I like Squeak.org. And I like everyone doing stuff in/for/on 
> Squeak/Pharo/Smalltalk/Huemul whatever.
> 
> I have Pharo on my disk. I just started playing in it for a toy project 
> involving RB AST, RoelTyper etc.
> 
> But I do all Gjallar work on 3.10.2/LPF right now, it takes time moving 
> a large project to a different baseline, so Gjallar will probably be on 
> 3.10.2 for a while. But nothing prevents us from testing out Pharo later 
> on - whatever works the best I say. Gjallar is also 95% ported to GS 
> these days.
> 
> I agree with Keith/Matthew that making good tools that can *span* 
> different forks/communities *must* be a good thing for us all to have. 
> All tools don't need to be spanning, but it doesn't hurt if *some* are - 
> right?
> 
> I *also* agree with Pharo people that hey, Pharo is a fork - we/you can 
> do whatever we/you like! And that is good - it's the strength of Pharo. 
> If Pharo diverts too much in "base stuff" it might turn into a weakness 
> - but we just don't know these things, it is still to be seen.
> 
> It is all about balance, benefits, etc. And we don't need to get angry 
> with each other do we? :) Trust me, it just burns your energy!
> 
> I have code that seems to be doing fine in Pharo - SocketStream comes to 
> mind. I know Pharo seem to be more inclined to use Universes than SM - 
> fine with me, no problem.
> 
> I hope to move SM forward in some way, and I hope it can still be 
> loaded/used from within Pharo - even if it gets thrown out soon (I think 
> I read something about that). I also intend to use both Pharo, Squeak or 
> whatever works best for my different tasks.
> 
> And finally I hope to revive DeltaStreams and make that work in Pharo as 
> well as most other Squeak flavors.
> 
> We are all Squeakers, right? :)
> 
> regards, Göran
> 
> PS. I am not sure why I am so damn cheerful, perhaps it is the SURGE I 
> seem to feel in the Squeak community - so many things going on all over 
> the place... ;)
> 
> 
> 




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