Joshua Gargus wrote:
> Juan Vuletich wrote:
>   
>> There's not a real consensus in this area. Many people (me included)
>> really prefer the left arrow for assignment and will not accept others
>> to prevent us from doing so. Please don't promise that. Switch to :=
>> only if you want.
>>     
>
> I usually agree with what you write, but this is simply wrong.  There is
> not *unanimous* consensus that left-arrow should be deprecated, but when
> has there ever been, in the Squeak community?  However, there is
> certainly a consensus.  You're free to use an old/modified Squeak that
> support underscore-assignment-rendered-as-an-arrow, but the community
> has clearly decided otherwise (please don't make me dig for references,
> but I will if I have to). 
>
>   
This community doesn't even have a consensus on the way to make 
decisions. These are not my words, but they say what I think: 
"Historically, decisions have been made by the people screaming the 
loudest or the longest. We need to work out a way to fix this and to 
come to a process by which we can make decisions that are acceptable to 
the community at large." Only when there is a process set up to make 
decisions, and it is applied to issues like this, you can say there is 
consensus. This has not happened yet. And I do really hope it will 
happen this year.

> You shouldn't muddy the waters for Squeak newcomers who haven't
> experienced the history first-hand.  Underscore assignment is on the way
> out.  Period.
>   

No it is not. You have no authority to say so. Perhaps the board has it. 
But not you. I'm sorry.

> I like the look of the left-arrow myself, but there's no reason that a
> pretty-printer can't render it that way; unfortunately nobody has
> stepped up to make that a reality.  On the other hand, I look forward to
> when underscore-assignment is not only deprecated, but completely
> disallowed, so that I can, for example, program OpenGL in Squeak using
> identical constant names (eg: GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT instead of
> GLColorBufferBit).
>
> Cheers,
> Josh
>
>   
Cheers,
Juan Vuletich