[squeak-dev] Re: Updating key morphic/etoy features in the main
Squeak release
Karl Ramberg
karlramberg at gmail.com
Fri Mar 13 16:00:49 UTC 2009
On 2009-03-13 10:03, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> On 13.03.2009, at 04:32, Robert Hawley wrote:
>
>> Hi Rita
>>
>> Thank you for your reply. It is good to hear that the Etoy
>> protagonists would be interested in back-porting Etoys improvements
>> to the main Squeak release.
>>
>> However, do we know if the Squeak release builders want any
>> improvements to morphic - or are they going to cut back to a
>> minimorphic?
>
> Well, I am one of the "Etoys protagonists" and just got re-elected by
> the community with my best-ever result (http://tinyurl.com/squeak2009)
> so I take that as a vote pro Etoys. It still will be a major chunk of
> work, but at least those most opposed to Etoys have their own way of
> working on a lean Squeak now.
>
>> I still don't know what questions to ask about how things are
>> managed. I have been looking around more - there have been some
>> changes with lists recently that I didn't know about. (I notice that
>> the lists are not very used as yet.) I still don't have much clue as
>> to where to find things about what goes into the main Squeak release,
>> who controls it, or where to look to see the current state of things.
>> Advice would be welcome.
>
> You are not alone. The truth is, there never has been a clear process
> ever since Squeak became community-driven. But it looks like the time
> is ripe now for change. The community has clearly voted for Andreas
> whose main campaigning platform was to establish those processes.
>
> Anyway, merging the latest Etoys back into a squeak.org release will
> probably take a while. Well, unless we find enough volunteers with
> copious amounts of spare time ;)
>
> If somebody is interested, the first thing to get an overview would be
> to review the change logs (we started with Etoys 1.0 = Squeak 3.8 and
> are now at Etoys 4.0):
>
> http://etoys.laptop.org/src/
>
> I'm pretty sure that rather few "system-level" methods were touched.
> One could start by cherry-picking "interesting" changes/fixes into 3.11.
>
> For a full integration we probably need to packetize Etoys first, so
> we can at least compare Monticello packages between Etoys and Squeak.
> Comments welcome.
There is Pavels Minimal Morphic with Etoys split out based on Juans
packages but those are probably 3.6 or 3.7, but is's a start :-)
I'm not sure what is considered Etoys in those packages tho...or what
considered Etoys for that part at all.
Karl
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